Why is Dublin such a shιtty city?

To be fair they are all sh!te compared to what most other capital cities have to offer.

I remember going to a couple of museums in London. Took me a day each to go around them. Had to go out for lunch and come back in and I still hadnt seen the half of it. And they were free too. Did the same in Chicago. Same again in France, but the ones in France cost money.

Dublin zoo would be about the only place in Dublin that I would say is worth a visit for a tourist, if they havent been to a zoo before. After that you have to go out to the likes of Glendalough, The national parks, Cliffs of Moher, or the Giants causeway to get to proper tourist destinations.

Or if you like pubs, Dublin will do, but everywhere has pubs. And walking around Dublin city center at night isnt for the feint hearted.

Dublin city center could be so much nicer if it was policed properly.

Now having said all that I quite like Dublin and there are some lovely places, just not near the city center. Roughly, if you draw a 3km circle with a compass from the Rotunda thats the exclusion zone :)

An yes, the city center and surrounds are fcuking filthy. Anyone who cant see that obviously not only has rose-tinted glasses, but they are blind too.

John_Rambo - Have you ever been to Dublin city center? It doesnt sound like you have.

the problem with this is, look what twelve gardai armed with guns did to a mentally unstable teenager a few months back in front of his family in his front garden, would you trust arming the majority if the minority can't control themselves ?

The main issue is the drug treatment centers concentrated in the North inner-city. Any so called bad areas would have been gentrified years ago otherwise....

you can say the same about any city (except Zurich).. good and bad parts to all - rich/poor side by side..

What drug treatment centres ?

I'm acting the maggot T , I work with addicts.

The KFC in the middle of Camberwell, a few doors down from a swanky boutique hotel, had bulletproof glass between the cashiers/kitchen and the punters. Its exceptionally dodgy.

I grew up in Dublin City, studied there and spent my formative years & presently work in the city centre chief. 😉

Your London adventures in the free museums sound amazing and I found them amazing too... If (like me) museums, galleries & cultural interests float your boat you should some try the ones in Dublin, the cultural hub of Ireland. Most of them are considered world class. The ones you pay for are very reasonable and are really worth it (particularly the Little museum of Dublin, EPIC museum & Kilmainham Gaol which is a must, it's very cheap & it's an emotional place with a lot of heart for anyone from Ireland). Here's a list of the free ones in Ireland:

The National Gallery of Ireland - Free

The Hugh Lane Gallery - Free

The Chester Beatty Library - Free

The Irish Museum of Modern Art - Free

The National Museum of Ireland - Free

The Bank of Ireland Building - Free

Leinster House - Free

The James Joyce Tower & Museum - Free

The Garda Museum - Free

The Revenue Museum - Free

There's lots more like Trinity that will open up again after the pandemic, or when it's under control.

Anyone can see that I'm more familiar with the city than you are. I can confidently say walking around the city at night is perfectly safe, I do it all the time, in fact millions do and survive. I'm just after walking from Baggot st. to Amiens st. to hop on a bus home with my work camera gear worth €4k in a bag on my back and I didn't get murdered, raped, robbed, beaten, savaged or tormented. I can report that the streets are clean, the city is alive & buzzing, lots of people moving around unharmed & there's no "exclusion zones" (the drama!) or no no-go areas. That's just amusing barstool talk.

Great that you enjoyed the zoo, it's a modernised Victorian classic, certainly not the first place I'd visit in my capital... But if you want some real Irish wildlife head to the nature reserves in Dublin, I work with the Dublin Bay Biosphere, in particular the Bull Island area. PM me if you're truly interested and I'll hook you up with some pointers.

*Don't post back and say you've seen them all, cause you clearly haven't.

I agree with you there. Look, I like Dublin, and I think its a lovely city. Its the 3 km circle around the top of O'Connell street that could be so nice, but its a neglected sh!thole that no tourist is going to go home with good reports about. If you see it every day you are somewhat used to it, but a tourist will notice it. And the people saying that tourists tell them they love Dublin, well thats like you telling the wife her bum doesnt look fat when she asks you.

But like Grafton St, Merrion Square, the South William St area, all of these nice places are less than 3km from O'Connell St?!

Ah come on now. Get real. The North inner city is dangerous. Cant believe you have to be told that.

I know personally two people personally who were mugged in the last year in Dublin city center. Both women. You can read the papers to find out about even more crimes in Dublin. Ive seen so many videos of toerags tearing up the city and troubling people just out for a drink or a meal in the city center. Surely youve seen them too. Not too hard to find. Lookup youtube under Dublin wildlife or something like that. I dont personally know anyone who was ever mugged anywhere else in Ireland apart from the city center.

Just for the craic i google crime in Dublin city and here is the first link.

"THE ENCOUNTER WE WITNESS comes less than a week after more than 140 local residents attended a crisis meeting about an upsurge in violent crime. Held online, it came following two fatal knife attacks in the area in recent weeks and in response to growing “fear, anxiety and deep sadness at what is happening”, says Noel Wardick, chief executive of the Dublin City Community Co-operative.

What is happening? Residents, community activists and youth workers all agree that a sense of increased drug-related violence, threat and intimidation in recent months has brought heightened fear to the area.

A report published last month, Debts, Threats, Distress and Hope: Towards Understanding Drug-Related Intimidation in Dublin’s North East Inner City, said almost a quarter of people here had experienced drug-related intimidation. More than 80 per cent saw it as an issue but less than one in five would report it.

The report said open dealing and low-level intimidation were normal, making the area feel unsafe and causing people to change their routines, avoid areas, stop letting children play outdoors, and to withdraw and cut off contacts with others in their community.

Of the 23 per cent who said they had experienced drug-related intimidation, 67 per cent had been threatened with physical harm; 53 per cent had been followed or tracked; 45 per cent had been threatened with vandalism of their property – including with pipe bombs – and 12 per cent threatened with sexual violence."

I think you are struggling there :)

So there are a few nice parts of Dublin withing 3km of the rotunda. A huge proportion of that is sh!t town im sure you'll agree.

No I quite like the city centre , but it's an odd thing to say that 3km of the rotunda is horrible, given the nicest parts of the city centre are within 3km of the rotunda

There is a violence problem in D1 which is why the Guards have started Operation Citizen because it was getting out of hand. That seems to be bearing fruit now.

Apart from that there is a bit of (relative) poverty but it's not exactly Calcutta. There are a "few nice places" even in your highly localised example of the worst area, what does that tell you.

The actual worst areas like Jobstown and Ballyfermot are completely self-contained and outsiders never have any reason to go there. Some aggro along the canal going through Bluebell, just don't cycle that way.

Jobstown is rough but I would definitely consider the north inner city worse. Neither are no go zones though.

Name the bad places in there. Go on, i dare you :)

You'll be typing far longer.

The National Museum of Ireland in half an hour? The bog bodies alone take half an hour.

You're spoofing. I don't think you've been to any of them. You haven't a clue about the city or what it has to offer! I'm in the North inner city all the time and have never been harmed, not once, bringing the kids in on Saturday to see the lights, do the shopping and go for some food. I'll make a bet with you. I bet you €1000 that nothing dangerous will happen to us.

Nope, your just deciding to make things up now. I've walked around the area your talking about thousands of times and although it's not pretty I've never been attacked.

Searching methadone cliinic on Google maps it looks like there are six drug /methadone treatment centers in the north inner city and at least two in the south inner city.

I'm familiar with Dublin inner city , it's always had a problem with addicts hanging around since at least the 80s. It's not the only problem it has but it's definitely held back things on the north inner side and it's sad to see things haven't improved much, apart from the docklands I guess.

I was getting a taxi from town down towards Sandyford recently and the taxi driver was telling me stories from his days "down the country with the culchies". Before I got out of the taxi, I finally asked him which county it was that he lived in, assuming that it would been somewhere like Kerry or Mayo. "Kildare" he says.

Dublin 2 & 4 are very nice. There are nice areas in the north side too, such as Howth and Phibsborough. Anything around O'Connell Street is quite dire though. The areas around DCU are awful too.