Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

Straight from the HSE website

So we have 93%+ vaccinated (plus boosters) and 0.01% of the population in hospital due to COVID and we are introducing more restrictions.

Bonuses all round boys, good job 👏🏻

The whole “god everyone is really doing their but to get numbers down” like we asked but let’s just fire ahead with a raft of more restrictions because like, well.. we can, genuinely just feels like grade A level trolling at this stage.

But even since the first report back in October, the number of people who passed away in ICU who were fully vaccinated always outnumbered unvaccinated people.

It's down to the age profile of deaths and the high % uptake in said demographic. That has never really been questioned before and people understood it, so why bring it up?

It's also well known that people die outside of ICU, mainly in fully vaccinated people. Has been since the start.

When you look at the % of cases split among vaccinated and unvaccinated people and their subsequent % being hospitalized and needing ICU, you can clearly see the impact unvaccinated people have on the health system.

Great news!!

Thanks. Another small step out of this, instead of hiding and running.

It's been known throughout this pandemic that the older you you the higher risk you have of death.

The elderly are the most at risk of death and also the highest vaccinated, therefore they are always going to be disproportionally represented in deaths.

When the first HSE report came out in September, this was no surprise. People understood it. Vaccines wont save 100% of people 100% of the time.

You are the one saying:

We've been reading the same data since September, maybe it's easier for you to see what we've all seen for the past 4 months?

It's a HSE/HPSC report, nothing got to do with Government or NPHET.

I'm sure the report will make for some uncomfortable reading for people when they realize the number of cases/hospitalizations/ICU admissions among unvaccinated people. As the report is more detailed, you wouldn't be focusing on deaths among vaccinated people to hide the undue strain the unvaccinated place on the HSE? I think as a whole, we have accepted we will have death from/due to covid. The main issue is hospitals/ICU capacity, which most people accept.

I can't understand why the Gov are doing this, the hospital numbers are going down. If they started to go up again then bring in the restrictions.

35 years old here and single. I ended up in between jobs just prior to the pandemic kicking off and remain so. From the beginning I felt like the government were paying lip service and would have loads of time to get away with speeches and the likes before many people actually wised up to their spineless nature. This was just my gut feeling and so has proved to be the case. It's been a frustrating two years to say the least and it's had a drastic effect on my mental health. It's also made me incredibly cynical and jaded with life. Despite all this, I always felt (or maybe just hoped) that a certain point would come where a long term strategy would arrive and at least a sizeable degree of normality would return.

Today is the first time though that I've really felt like my future does not lie in Ireland and I absolutely hate that the government have forced me into this position, particularly when they pick and choose when to "follow the science" and when not to do so. People in my age group/scenario are in no way more important than any other group but I do feel like we have been forgotten about more than most. Not old enough to get particularly sick (in most cases) but not young enough to feel like there's endless time to wait around for this ****-storm to end.

Then you look at those three clowns in charge of this country who have long since proven that they aren't capable to lead in times of crisis. They don't have it in them. Leaders should be people possessing skills that can be utilised in the absolute worst of circumstances with the hope such situations may never arise. When you think of our so called leaders in these terms you realise just how pathetic and lacking they are. Today they basically said that this Winter is not quite as **** as last Winter and hopefully next year will be slightly less **** still. Talk about grim. The worst thing is they seem to have stopped any real optimistic talk of the future. It's all "the virus will have many twist and turns" etc and "each stage will be dealt with as it arrives". I don't mean to sound so depressing and ultimately I will be fine (whether I am in Ireland or not) but it's very disheartening. The Xmas restrictions are disheartening but nowhere near as disheartening as knowing that such a bunch of useless empty suits are in charge of this nation. Some people might agree with the restrictions and of course that is their right but I think that even a lot of them will feel that this lot will let them down in some capacity sooner or later, whether it be covid-related or otherwise.

I will preface this by saying I don’t watch the news or the announcements.

What is the rationale for bringing in these restrictions? Is it the uncertainty around omicron? Or trying to prevent a repeat of last year? Hospitals are stable enough

I really do feel awful for those whose livelihoods are affected. I suppose it’s little comfort that there are more severe restrictions in place around Europe - I hope we will avoid those.

Like lumen above I just hope the schools can stay open. Last year was hard. One of my boys who is disabled had almost nothing for nearly five months. I happened to be out of work at same time which was fortunate in retrospect. But it was hard.

I’ll be five months post 2nd vaccine next week. My boys are about to turn five as well so hope we can get our Jabs soon.

So you do actually leave the house then? Or did you see that from peering through your curtins

Hospitals being stable now is irrelevant. The winter spike really starts mid December and peaks in January so that’s what they are worried about. We (including NPHET) are only guessing about what will happen but we know it’s disaster every year, even without Covid.

I don't believe they're even analysing the numbers or double checking data themselves, they appear to be in awe of and only believe everything nphet tell them. I'd say people on here are more clued in to the numbers than many in cabinet. Its the only explanation I have for them standing over introducing more restrictions. I don't understand how there isn't more dissenting voices in politics, whatever about lack of backbenchers making noises, the opposition are useless and have given the government a free ride at every turn.

If you are old then boosters make sense. If you're under 50 the benefits are marginal at best. It won't stop you getting or spreading covid. So, no, its not same as getting the first two shots. I haven't seen anything to suggest it will reduce the time you have to take off work as any positive result still requires a crazy 10 days of isolation.

The best way for your parent to reduce their risk is to take the booster.