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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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    #28832
    xhomelezz
    Registered Users Posts: 3,061 ✭✭✭xhomelezz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273459#Comment_118273459

    Viruses are infecting and spreading. Not insulting. Unless you've found the virus telling you something you don't like.

    Post edited by xhomelezz on


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    #28833
    Happydays2020
    Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273519#Comment_118273519

    https://twitter.com/roinnslainte/status/1467480720838959111?s=21


    The @hpscireland has today been notified of 5,156* confirmed cases of #COVID19.


    As of 8am today, 503 COVID-19 patients are hospitalised, of which 110 are in ICU.


    *Daily case numbers may change due to future data validation.



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    #28834
    Quantum Erasure
    Registered Users Posts: 8,531 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273511#Comment_118273511

    a BMI well over 40 though...



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    #28835
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273628#Comment_118273628

    Might need to add a few Phishnet 😩

    https://twitter.com/TinResistAgain/status/1467547376428757000


    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #28836
    Rynaldo
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Rynaldo


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    Is anyone else finding the rhetoric is becoming a tad sinister, what next Micheal, round us up and put us into camps, for the 'greater good'.


    Leaders worldwide starting to become quite aggressive, certainly well and truly puts me off ever considering getting it.



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    #28837
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭brickster69


    CoViD PaSsPoRtS wORk

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    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #28838
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,084 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    @Rynaldo wrote

    Leaders worldwide starting to become quite aggressive, certainly well and truly puts me off ever considering getting it.

    Oh no! And you were just about to, if someone had just found the right combination of platitudes.



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    #28839
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    It's coming isn't it ?

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #28840
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,395 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    Jesus he's fierce boring at this stage. Still uttering this crap a few days after the second successive week of increased restrictions on the vaccinated.

    It's nothing but basic gaslighting really.



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    #28841
    Real Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 1,608 ✭✭✭Real Donald Trump


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    The man just spews bullshit every time he opens his gob, a complete moron!



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    #28842
    Bananaleaf
    Registered Users Posts: 2,921 ✭✭✭Bananaleaf


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    Why does it put you off getting it? Do you think they are putting something into it? Edited to add that I'm not trying to antagonise you, I'm just curious about why you think that way



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    #28843
    Rynaldo
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Rynaldo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274140#Comment_118274140

    When the fines start coming in, and I'm cut off from so many aspects of the life I enjoy, there'd definitely be a possibility that I would crack.

    Rhetoric like MM is starting to increasingly spout, like I'm some dangerous disease ridden rat putting everyone in danger because I don't currently want to sign up to a lifetime subscription of vaccination - is so infuriating and insulting that a life of solitude and persecution seem a hill worthy of dying on.



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    #28844
    Lumen
    Registered Users Posts: 31,084 ✭✭✭✭Lumen


    But don't you feel a bit special? Like the French resistance in WW2.



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    #28845
    Dr Fred
    Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Dr Fred


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118272843#Comment_118272843

    A large portion of them appear to be layabout dolers or ex-cons.



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    #28846
    Rynaldo
    Registered Users Posts: 42 ✭Rynaldo


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    @Banana - In my age bracket and being in very good shape without any comorbidities, I myself know I don't need it. At the beginning I was willing to do the 'right thing' given we were told it would stop transmission. Now it seems as though not only does it not stop transmission, but I will also need to likely do this twice a year just to keep the freedoms I was born with, that are now apparently belonging to the state, and given to only those who can comply.


    Finally, and I have to word this carefully as no doubt the shrieks of 'conspiracy loon' will be thrown at me - but, the amount of what I would describe as propaganda / censoring of opinions that don't suit the narrative, constant changing of the goalpoasts, and now finally with what appears to be an attempt at dehumanizing the people that don't fall into line, is giving me a very unpleasant feeling that maybe the conspiracy theorists weren't as crazy as I myself thought they were. I think pride and ego are stopping alot of people right now who deep down are feeling something similar.



    @Lumen - very good 😫



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    #28847
    jackboy
    Registered Users Posts: 4,598 ✭✭✭jackboy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    This is just classical political deflection. When the people start to turn on you, create an enemy. It is dangerous though, it is a call on the public to hate a certain section of the population.



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    #28848
    tom1ie
    Registered Users Posts: 10,513 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274402#Comment_118274402

    Are we 100% certain the vaccine doesn’t reduce transmission?

    Do we have scientific evidence the vaccine doesn’t reduce transmission?



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    #28849
    big_drive
    Registered Users Posts: 3,235 ✭✭✭big_drive


    If a person who travelled to uk this morning and due back on Tuesday evening takes an antigen test as required, tests positive. What are the implications?

    Remain in UK, self isolate over there? How long, when can they get home, etc? How many days



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    #28850
    Avon8
    Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭Avon8


    This vaccinated stuff actually scares me. We are a vaccinated nation. We have 95%+ vaccination rate. We've defeated the anti vaxers with ease. This scare mongering and restrictions are actually feeding into their conspiracy theories.

    Of the 5%, I know of two unvaxed people. One has had one dose but is 31 weeks pregnant and her doctor told her to hang on until after the birth. The second is 29 weeks and her husband was in bed for 4 days after dose 1, and 2 days after dose 2. She hasn't bothered.

    This is the extent of our anti vax community. Can we please cop the fcuk on and put our efforts and fears into actual productive ways to sort this mess out



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    #28851
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,678 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274732#Comment_118274732

    No idea. Probably won't be allowed on the flight. Possibly would have to do MHQ for a week and get a PCR test. MHQ is £2700 / week

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #28852
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,429 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274845#Comment_118274845

    95% of the adult population.


    Not the overall population.


    A fact that seems to have gone over many peoples heads.



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    #28853
    Avon8
    Registered Users Posts: 499 ✭✭Avon8


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274939#Comment_118274939

    Grand yeah. Pin down toddlers and force jabs into their arms. It may help their 0.00 death rate. Hopefully



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    #28854
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users Posts: 13,433 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    I suspect support for closing pubs is at an all time high.

    The only thing that will change this support is an increase in taxation to fund the compensation.



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    #28855
    Jinglejangle69
    Registered Users Posts: 7,429 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274957#Comment_118274957

    Well that escalated quickly...



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    #28856
    Danno
    Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274674#Comment_118274674

    Case numbers going through the roof and every adult I know of in my town who has Covid or recently had was double vaccinated.

    Strangely enough the very few adults I know of that are not vaccinated haven't caught Covid.



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    #28857
    bucketybuck
    Registered Users Posts: 18,485 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118274845#Comment_118274845

    It doesn't matter. The simple need a scapegoat and the unvaccinated are it.

    But at least the unvaccinated as scapegoat stops the loons really going after those dirty covid spreading toddlers, so thats something at least.



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    #28858
    fm
    Registered Users Posts: 669 ✭✭✭fm


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118275021#Comment_118275021

    Maybe it's because the unvaccinated can't get in anywhere,not having a cert is protecting them😀



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    #28859
    bloopy
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭bloopy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    It is scary what is being promoted at the moment.

    For the last few months I have been trying to get an idea of weekly deaths and icu vaccination status of patients. I did this by using the hspc weekly Friday reports which ran from April 1st until a week before the date of each publication.

    Unfortunately the HSPC nixed these reports Friday just gone and replaced them with a report that starts 27 June until 20 November. Unfortunately this has made it impossible to continue to track the weekly admissions and deaths without going through months of reports. It may be easier if I can compare next Friday's report with this fridays (assuming they keep June 27 as the start date).

    I have also been keeping an eye on the CSO Deaths And Cases Series for the latest update. They have been released every two weeks on a Friday since March 2020. This Friday just gone is the first time that this report has not been released in 20 months. I do not know if it has been nixed also or just delayed until tomorrow.

    CSO report series 36 is at the following link. The figures I will use are from Table A.

    https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/br/b-cdc/covid-19deathsandcasesseries36/

    The new style report from the HSPC does give a percentage for confirmed unvaccinated in the total case rate for the period 17 October to 20 November.

    The percentage is 13% confirmed unvaccinated for this period.

    The CSO also gave the weekly percentage for confirmed unvaccinated for each week from 20 August to 12 Novermber (linked above Table A).

    For some of the period in the HSPC report the percentage was:

    22 Oct 32%

    29 Oct 24%

    5 Nov 21%

    12 Nov 12%

    For this period this gives a percentage of 22.25% confirmed unvaccinated.

    Between the 12 Nov and 20 Nov that percentage was reduced to 13% confirmed unvaccinated.

    From what I can work out (and I might have made a mistake in the numbers here somewhere so let me know if I have), the only way that it can be reduced to 13% is if confirmed unvaccinated made up just 4 or 5% of the case numbers for that week.

    Unfortunately this is information that is two weeks old by now. But the percentage confirmed unvaccinated had been dropping pretty rapidly in the weeks leading up to that week.

    Unfortunately, it is difficult to see what (if any ) effect this has had on admissions as the new HSPC reports are now two weeks out of date instead of one. With another week before an updated report is released.

    Assuming they keep June 27 as the start days then it might be possible to calculate weekly admission rates or deaths again.



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    #28860
    72sheep
    Registered Users Posts: 568 ✭✭✭72sheep



    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118273962#Comment_118273962

    This is a worryingly bold from MM. NPHET pushed behind a govmt relations team on Friday and so they can't counter this particularly aggressive govmt statement coming on the Sunday evening. Now whatever could MM be planning!?! 

    The in-fighting scientists and medics are not blameless and are being played like fools. Looking on the positive side, there is loads of money to be made providing media training to these people :-)  



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    #28861
    Danno
    Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118275101#Comment_118275101

    But Leo and Mehole say different! According to those two and their merry band of supporters, the unvaccinated carry covid 24/7, never recover from it, spread it like wildfire and yet hog ICU beds like a middle lane driver on the M50.



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