Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

It is scary what is being promoted at the moment.

For the last few months I have been trying to get an idea of weekly deaths and icu vaccination status of patients. I did this by using the hspc weekly Friday reports which ran from April 1st until a week before the date of each publication.

Unfortunately the HSPC nixed these reports Friday just gone and replaced them with a report that starts 27 June until 20 November. Unfortunately this has made it impossible to continue to track the weekly admissions and deaths without going through months of reports. It may be easier if I can compare next Friday's report with this fridays (assuming they keep June 27 as the start date).

I have also been keeping an eye on the CSO Deaths And Cases Series for the latest update. They have been released every two weeks on a Friday since March 2020. This Friday just gone is the first time that this report has not been released in 20 months. I do not know if it has been nixed also or just delayed until tomorrow.

CSO report series 36 is at the following link. The figures I will use are from Table A.

The new style report from the HSPC does give a percentage for confirmed unvaccinated in the total case rate for the period 17 October to 20 November.

The percentage is 13% confirmed unvaccinated for this period.

The CSO also gave the weekly percentage for confirmed unvaccinated for each week from 20 August to 12 Novermber (linked above Table A).

For some of the period in the HSPC report the percentage was:

22 Oct 32%

29 Oct 24%

5 Nov 21%

12 Nov 12%

For this period this gives a percentage of 22.25% confirmed unvaccinated.

Between the 12 Nov and 20 Nov that percentage was reduced to 13% confirmed unvaccinated.

From what I can work out (and I might have made a mistake in the numbers here somewhere so let me know if I have), the only way that it can be reduced to 13% is if confirmed unvaccinated made up just 4 or 5% of the case numbers for that week.

Unfortunately this is information that is two weeks old by now. But the percentage confirmed unvaccinated had been dropping pretty rapidly in the weeks leading up to that week.

Unfortunately, it is difficult to see what (if any ) effect this has had on admissions as the new HSPC reports are now two weeks out of date instead of one. With another week before an updated report is released.

Assuming they keep June 27 as the start days then it might be possible to calculate weekly admission rates or deaths again.

Is inciting hatred a crime?

Double jabbed / triple jabbed / unjabbed whatever.

Is this the society we are going to manipulated into? Will have to see if I fit under the floorboards if the trajectory of this aggression continues.

Quite relieved at some of the responses here, in my social circle there are more than a few seeming to get some perverse pleasure from watching the segregation of the unvaccinated, and it's not public health that they're expressing this joy from.

This covid experience has shown me more about society and people than the rest of my life had combined, depressingly sobering.

Just a question on the Government controlling public communications from NPHET.

Will the letters from the CMO to Donnelly still be published on gov.ie website?

I don't always agree with NPHET's advice or what the Government choose to do with their advice but I would still like to know how the Government arrived at whatever restrictions they impose.

Tbh, I am ok with that if I can still easily find the advice NPHET give to Government if I want to.

Is that aimed at yourself? You appear to be the most covid-obsessed poster here all day every day. Ironic really.

Guest on Claire Byrne talking about 'long-term scarring' from the pandemic.

"Could that be positive scarring?" says CB 😐️ wtf

Yep . If we are to be fully open as a society that's looking like the figure that will be in our hospitals give or take. Once this new variant is hopefully confirmed as not game changing i think the HSE will be told to get on with things.

Micheál Martins comments last night has pulled all the little authoritarians out of the woodwork and given them permission to voice their true opinions.

Reddit Ireland last night was noticeably more extreme than it's usual extreme self. Some of the opinions being put forward are quite frightening if they were to be enacted.

The discontinuation of both the HSPC and (as it seems for the moment) the CSO vaccination break down reports makes it now almost impossible to see if the collapse of confirmed unvaccinated case rates continued beyond the 12 November.

It does seem from the new style HSPC report that the confirmed unvaccinated case rate may have been as low as 4% for the week between 12 November and 20 November. (Scratch that. See note below).

Beyond that is definitely unknown.

Edit: CSO report has now been updated with new figures. Percentages raised for some weeks.

New figures now correspond with HSPC figures for confirmed unvaccinated showing 13% all cases between 17 Oct and 20 Nov.

CSO report: