Santy get a boyfriend...

So, depending on the circumstances, it's ok to not like 2 men kissing?

is this women or men we're watching...?

So what ye are saying that circumstances, ie: what is happening, are important in deciding if a view/opinion is homophobic? And simply not liking 2 men kissing is homophobic?

I don't like so see 2 men kissing, but I'm not homophobic. Work away lads, none of my business. But doesn't mean I like seeing 2 men kissing. I don't say anything, I just avert my gaze and continue on. It's not something I'm interested in, it doesn't nothing for me personally. Mainly because I'm straight. But that makes me homophobic, just because it's not something I like seeing? Seems a bit of a stretch if I'm being honest. Can one not have a dislike for seeing something without being cast as homophobic?

I like seeing 2 women do it though, so does that mean I'm not homophobic? I googled, there doesn't appear to be a phobic term for not liking male only gays... But it's not that I don't like men only gays, again, I don't care, see above paragraph. People of any sexual orientation could openly ride each other in the street, I'll look at some of it, I won't others, which is all based on my own personal sexual preferences.

Sorry, I'm just really trying to figure this out.... Used to be that you had to hate/treat gay people differently in order to be homophobic. Now thoughts without actions count too? Feck... Pretty sure I'm probably a little bit of every phobic if we're counting thoughts, cuz even I don't control them a lot of the time.

Also, touching and seeing are 2 very different things, can't be equated.

i can hand on heart say they'll get as much business from me as they ever did, this won't affect my custom with them at all...

Ridiculous statement - if you don't want to watch 2 men kissing then you are probably homophobic?? Doesn't work that way - if I'm attracted to females the last thing I want to see is 2 of my own sex kissing. Do you understand sexual attraction/repulsion at all?

No I don't, I don't particularly care for anyone who is eating the face off someone else in public, it's pretty cringe regardless of who is doing it.

And I still refute your label of homophobic because I don't want to watch 2 guys kissing. I'm a heterosexual male who is attracted to females - why the **** would I stop and watch 2 fellas kissing? I should just stare and watch it lest someone like you label me a homophobe? Think it's well past time for people to very carefully pick the labels they want to use because if everything is "phobic" then nothing is "phobic" - you know you can overuse a term until it basically has no meaning left?

I'm wondering why anyones personal preference about seeing the same sex kiss in an ad or TV show is a factor in the discussion at all?

Ultra religious folks probably don't want to see anyone kissing, tough luck to them. Kissing is on the telly.

Some straight people probably don't want to see two men kissing, tough luck to them.

Some gay people probably don't want to see two straight people of opposite genders kissing, tough luck to them.

Really - who cares what your personal preference is? It's not there for you, if you don't like it, just swallow your dislike and put up with it like an adult. There's things in all of our lives that we don't like, but we just get on with it anyway.

If we spent our lives structuring TV shows or ads purely around what may offend a group, then we will have nothing except ultra boring, "clean" TV that is of no consequence, and has nothing to do with reality.

They say every thread on a forum, once it goes long enough, will descend into random madness.

This is now nothing more than people accusing others of being a homophobe and others defending themselves.

Classy.

So you make a serious point as you call it. Then another person makes a "serious point", then another does. In fact what is a serious point?

No matter what you call your opinion - it's now just a bunch of people accusing others and others defending. Sure the line "I didn't call you a homophobe (although you protest this quite a lot)" was spoken above. By you ironically enough lol. .

I'm not seriously accusing anyone of being a homophobe (It's After Hours forum lol), just that they may have a bit of internalised homophobia. To me acting on is would make one a homophobe. The serious point was down to you deliberately choosing to skip over that and comment on the "classiness" - I just wanted to point out that it didn't apply to me.

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118278433#Comment_118278433

You're pulling me into an argument that I don't really care about. I haven't really been on this thread, I just simply pointed out that for those that feel the need to "avert their gaze" (Or avert the gays??!), may be doing so because of a bit of deep down homophobia.

I'm not calling everyone a homophobe, I'm not making a judgement call on right vs wrong here.

It reminds me of little kids covering their eyes and shouting disgust whenever they see an on screen kiss.

You forgot the "poisoning humanity" bit

Wow I was treating this as a bit of a nonsense AH thread but it's really bringing out the best in people!

Unless you are all taking the piss? Must be that surely, no one outside of a 1970s sitcom still talks like this 🤣🤣

Open your eyes watching the TV, the true brave choice