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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,632 ✭✭✭Dr. Bre




  • Registered Users Posts: 139 ✭✭hopgirl


    My mum got a text with her appointment for her booster but she only can ring and answer calls. Wasn't until I called to her and looked at her phone and seen the message. It was two days after her appointment when I seen it. I have showed her loads of times how to get up text messages etc but it's hopeless 🙈. Might more like her that doesn't know how to get a text up for their booster.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    5,590 new cases, leftovers from yesterday one would presume. 505 in hospital and 117 in ICU.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,677 ✭✭✭Happydays2020


    You are right. They seem rigid in the approach and should aim to get as many vaccines in as possible. Even to have vaccines over to x age group 3/4 days in advance but open to the next group the day before for open slots.



  • Registered Users Posts: 86,220 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1




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  • Registered Users Posts: 13,065 ✭✭✭✭Goldengirl


    This post above is a complete misrepresentation of what I said

    You have just twisted everything and that article is not the one I referenced in my post . As if you are interested really , I posted the information on here about 2 weeks ago.

    If I thought you would read it this time I would post it again , but you know what , can't be bothered . Your answer is rude so you can look it up yourself .

    The article I quoted before is the NOCA Covid paper re ICU since the pandemic.

    There are many articles on that site which go into a lot of detail some of it unwieldy if not working in the area.

    On the original issue I did not say it was ignorant to "look for information "as you say

    It is certainly not ignorant to look for information, but is to make claims when you don't know the facts.And then refuse to accept or read any information given in good faith by a nurse specialising in the area you are spouting about.

    Maybe you don't understand the information? . I do understand the medical terms and I have attempted on here to speak in plainer language mostly, where appropriate , but I won't attempt to explain further to be treated with such rudeness and contempt by you or anyone else.

    I have not made the claim you attribute to me about patients in ICU with Covid and will not say anything more as that will probably be twisted out of recognition also .( I knew you were being totally disingenuous when I read that )

    That statement of yours is totally incorrect and I think you know it was not what I said .

    What I said was that anybody in ICU with Covid was very sick with it , no matter how they got it .

    The data you are seeking ( why, I don't know, unless you are writing up a paper on it?) will become available once proper procedures and consent have been processed .

    This has been explained before ,many times, but no answer is good enough for some here ...its all a big cover up , isn't it?

    I don't think most people really want all the information they go on about. It is just to moan and whinge about their 'rights' being infringed upon if they are not provided with every detail.

    In reality most people have NO RIGHT or ENTITLEMENT at all to that information, as it is belonging to the patients themselves or the individual institutions and, those same institutions have to account to the patients and their families for any release of information.

    This has been explained countless times before but some here just don't get it.

    Come back to me when and if you want to engage in mature manner . Which will not be anytime soon by the conduct of your previous posts .

    I won't be responding to further trolling posts which I consider yours to be as you grossly misquoted me .

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  • Registered Users Posts: 16,133 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Because its not flexible . You get a text with the appointment and it might not suit . Texting New to get a new one is hit and miss .

    i don’t understand why its not a booking online system so people can pick a date that suits or plan ahead



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    My GP has a booking online system which texts you to book an appointment and is pretty flexible

    It's a relatively small practice of 3-4 GPs too



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,441 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Probably because they demonstrably aren't the end of restrictions and lockdowns.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,716 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Pretty much every expert has said that HEPA filters are a second choice to ventilation.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 27,716 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Well, haven't checked the Facebook experts in fairness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Have you asked all the experts yourself? Where are their interviews or comments to the contrary?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    Pretty much every expert has said both should be used along with other measures rather than choosing one or the other. Hepa filters of particular importance in situations where ventilation alone may not be suitable, like ……


    one expert claimed that the approach by nphet to hepa filters defied the law of physics of all things but hey science and all that!

    https://www.thejournal.ie/should-hepa-air-filters-be-used-in-schools-to-prevent-covid-5616616-Dec2021/



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 51,687 Mod ✭✭✭✭Stheno


    Like my entirely sealed office where you can't open the windows



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Nope I don’t.

    I didn’t make a lazy claim. I asked for that lazy claim to be backed up and I’m still waiting.

    so stop deflecting, thanks.

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Is it supposed to take longer to get a PCR test result in one centre compared to another?

    Went for a test on Monday at the 10am in sandyford and still haven’t a result.

    Wife brought the daughter to citywest on Monday at 12 and result is back.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    It wasn't a lazy claim as it's what any expert on TV, radio or the press this week has said. The filters are not a silver bullet. They are secondary to or, at best complimentary to, good ventilation. You're the one with lazy deflections - tantamount to the old "Link?" retort.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    That's precisely what they've been saying. You're the ideal candidate for the filters.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Right.

    “Virtually all experts” was the claim. (Different to what you are saying).

    No one can claim that, would you not agree?

    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Forget it. It's like trying to have a conversation with a bag of frogs.

    You seem to have a preconceived notion that, for some strange reason, any experts who haven't spoken on the matter disagree with those who have.

    I'll leave you to it because I've better things to do than ping pong with an illogical argument over semantic nonsense.



  • Registered Users Posts: 3,581 ✭✭✭Working class heroes


    Racism is now hiding behind the cloak of Community activism.



  • Registered Users Posts: 989 ✭✭✭Stormyteacup


    The article I posted was a different one to the one you posted, I clearly did not imply it was the same.

    Really if you are going to claim rudeness, immaturity and trolling you need to at least clearly show where I misrepresented you.

    Here are some of your replies to me in the past when I questioned your claim that Sweden treated far fewer elderly in ICU than Ireland (and linked to data showing they didn't).

    "I have, you need to read the link now .Talk later :)"

    "Yea they were great at their figures alright, I'll give them that .Shame if you want to know precisely you may have to go through them weekly week and work it out .Damn tedious ;)Over 65% elderly , as in over 65 years ,would point toa median of over 65 . Somebody good at maths here?"

    I'd say that was a little rude, but didn't hurt my feelings.

    "What I said was anyone in ICU with Covid was very sick with it, no matter how they got it" - yes this was what I was asking. I had missed the report from NOCA published 4th November this year, where they say that 7% were admitted for non-Covid reasons. That answers one of my questions (although I would like to know the current percentage rather than a blanket percentage covering May 2020 to October 2021 - I suspect I won't know that though, unless I'm writing a paper and apply for access to that data).

    So there are a small few asymptomatic patients in ICU along with non-nationals and perhaps other marginalised groups. This data is important to me because I don't believe excluding those who refuse the vaccine from participating in everyday life (should that come about here, and there is some call for it), is morally right and warrants a complete picture before it's endorsed.

    There's no patient consent procedure involved in releasing that data - if you read the link I posted you'll see that all patient data, once identifying information is removed, is available to those granted access. I read all of the data released to the general public and my questions relate to those data not released.

    You don't need to read or even respond to my posts, I'll restate that I have nothing but respect for healthcare workers - but I'll continue to question, we all should.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,377 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    Does anyone know if you can get your kids an antibody test to find out if they’ve had covid?

    Does this then mean if they are a close contact in the future, they don’t have to isolate?

    It would be for our 7 year old. Everyone else in the family has had or has covid including her 9year old sister.

    We are pretty sure she had it herself but only had light sniffles for a day or two. We couldn’t get a test at the time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭mcburns07


    Good to see this thread so quiet, people are moving on even if the gov wont.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,357 ✭✭✭✭lawred2




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,656 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    They're on the weather Forum complaining about unnecessary orange warnings and met eireann telling the government what schools can or can't open and government telling us what is or isn't safe.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,760 ✭✭✭Deeper Blue


    According to RTE:

    "Public health experts on NPHET will now have to inform the Department of Health before making any media appearances"

    About bloody time



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