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Storm Barra: December 7/8th 2021 **Technical Discussion Only**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    In an answer to a question I posed on the general thread, there is a weather station near Lahinch (Clare) and their maximum wind at half-hourly intervals was 42 G 67 knots, which is fairly close to what both Valentia and Mace Head reported at other times. And that was time stamped 4:30 p.m.

    Too bad there isn't an official station somewhere in that vicinity as it's rather a big gap from Athenry to Shannon.

    It strikes me as interesting that there have now been two storms (Arwen and Barra) with very strong northerly winds, in a span of about ten days. You have to wonder if this will become a bit of a thing this winter and sooner or later associated with colder air masses too. No such luck I suppose.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    Here

    Formulario para peticion de mensajes aeronauticos (ogimet.com)

    Type in EISG and select the time period. It will show all the metars and TAFs for that time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,227 ✭✭✭pad199207


    Some models have an area of very strong winds for Greater Dublin Area tomorrow morning which probably explains why Dublin has been upgraded to an Orange Level Warning again. 




  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Im surprised at Clare. You’d think lahinch would have been pushed inland at this stage.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,094 ✭✭✭✭nacho libre


    I wonder what track and pressure reading we would need for that to happen. Is it possible you can deliver this, if only so you can read something new M.T.Cranium



  • Registered Users Posts: 278 ✭✭J6P


    Population density close to the coast would be my best guess



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,430 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    I heard it mentioned that Dublin was raised back to Orange due to a marginal call on conditions and due to population density and greater risk of debris and damage, they erred with Orange rather than Yellow.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Notable today at my Davis station near Arklow was the sheer number of gusts above 80 and 90kmh

    The sheer persistence

    At one point around lunchtime the 10 min average was just shy of 80



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    11pm

    Mace head gusting 67 knots

    Newport 64 knots

    Belmullet 55 knots



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Latest TAF for DUB has increased the Gusts to 58kts overnight.

    TAF EIDW 072300Z 0800/0824 26024G38KT 9999 SCT012 BKN020 BECMG 0800/0802 28028G48KT TEMPO 0800/0809 SHRA BKN012 SCT018CB PROB40 TEMPO 0800/0806 28032G58KT 4000 BECMG 0819/0821 28018G30KT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Still can't get Sligo Airport gusts. But must be in the 60s. Its roaring out there. At 7 it was calm. But then 710 it went mental. Worst wind in Sligo in many years

    The fact the wind is a direct Northwestly is helping it pick up uuuummmpph



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭redsteveireland


    Pretty horrible in Galway now, some longer sustained gusts making an awful racket in the chimney. Spent a few minutes watching my neighbours trampoline in awe, it must be well tied down. 42 Kts was the previous highest, will be interesting to see the next report.



  • Moderators, Motoring & Transport Moderators Posts: 6,522 Mod ✭✭✭✭Irish Steve


    Not sure how much accuracy to put on this, but discovered earlier today that my phone has a pressure sensor, which can give me the local pressure, and correct it for sea level based on GPS elevation.

    As of 23:50, the corrected sea level pressure for Ashbourne in Meath is showing as 970 Hpa, which looks about right compared to the Dublin Airport figures from a few minutes earlier.

    Winds here are starting to pick up again after an afternoon of strong breezes, I can't see wind direction at the moment, but wherever it's coming from, it's considerably stronger and more gusts in it than a few hours ago.

    Shore, if it was easy, everybody would be doin it.😁



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,222 ✭✭✭✭Oscar Bravo


    METAR EISG(SLIGO) 072330Z AUTO 31042G57KT 3500 BR BKN022 OVC027



  • Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭bencarvosso


    I'm just outside the town and it's increased even more in past 20 mins. Absolutely wild. Lights flickering. Reckon power could go any min



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,843 ✭✭✭dacogawa


    It wasn't too bad at Poolbeg (in Dublin) this morning/afternoon, I've been there when it was a lot worse but the waves were spectacular. I went down about 2 hours before high tide and the waves were higher than they were for high tide, probably due to extra wind speed and a proper side impact. As the wind changed direction closer to high tide.



  • Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Snow angel


    Does Markree in Sligo only put out temperatures or also include wind speeds?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 529 ✭✭✭Goldfinch8


    Certainly a wild night here just east of Castlebar. The sustained nature of the wind is certainly one of the standout features of this storm.

    Mace Head gusting 64 kts in the ME midnight reports and Newport here in Mayo hitting 65 kts.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    It's a breezy/windy night in Galway, and that is how it best described. Nothing we wouldn't get every 3rd or 4th day under normal zonal winters.

    Anyway, managed to grab a gust that went above 40 knots just after midnight. Like the majority of these 'storms' that occurred since the naming system came in, it seems very much a coastal event once again. Those hardcore winds just cannot seem to penetrate much inland anymore.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,693 ✭✭✭Dazler97


    Still looking bad for the northwest violent storm force winds for at least the next 6 hours, stay safe mind yourselves out there



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Lights are flickering...Please no



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭pauldry


    It is violent and will continue so till 5 or 6 am. Went out back to look at it and a branch snapped off a tree into the garden tree still surviving though.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    FLickered, server flickered... Wild wild wild out here ..How the satellite dish holds is a sheer miracle

    West Mayo offshore



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Unspeakable out here. Thankfully some sleep with my painkillers! I hoped it would be over by now?

    West Mayo all at sea.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Just like mosquitos these grousers! as in "they only do it to annoy because they know it teases" Tek no heed!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 420 ✭✭Little snowy old me


    Severe gusts now hitting from the north west. Been a while since I heard such a continuous roar of wind. Donegal and Sligo getting a good blast.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Bsal


    Gusting 75kts at Sligo airport

    METAR EISG 080200Z AUTO 30042G75KT 5000 BR SCT017 OVC024 06/04 Q0977=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,777 ✭✭✭Bsal


    39kts sustained at Skerries sailing club's anemometer in north County Dublin




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    All caught up with the situation. rte has an excellent summary. Tried to call family in BC but the Canadian side said no

    Sounds like snow on the windows..sleety hail

    West Mayo offshore



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    So, in your mind, people posting their local weather conditions as they see it are 'setting out to annoy others' and are 'mosquitoes'?

    I'm not going to paint these very standard conditions locally as something they are not just to suit you or anyone else. And anyway, what are you doing on a west coast island when it is subject to this sort of weather that you seem so constantly terrified of?

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    (((HUGS)))

    Maybe read the other thread and what MT refers to? Not the real weather reports.

    I hope you feel better soon as you are hitting at the wrong person. I was supporting the folk wjo were upset

    And yes very very upset by the injustice and anger of your post. Please find a punch bag!

    Signing off as I am too ill for this kind of erronoeous attack. Just is too much

    Hanging on here by a thread at times.

    Praying for you. BLESS YOU! I mean that. BLESS YOU!



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    signing off as cannot cope with unjustified aggression ...

    Goodbye and stay safe;



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,147 ✭✭✭endainoz




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Fair enough but you calling people 'mosquitoes' because they are not reporting all out storm conditions, it was easy to assume that I was included in your swipe. If I got the wrong end of the stick, then I sincerely apologise.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,238 ✭✭✭Oneiric 3


    Anyway, have grown really tired of the aggro that just seems to explode on this forum every time I post something on it these last few months. Time I think to nip that in the bud and let this forum become at peace with itself once again without my clearly toxic presence.

    Keep enjoying the weather! Up, over and out.

    Patrick.

    New Moon



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,877 ✭✭✭sparrowcar


    Anyway back to the actual weather 🙄

    Will be interesting to see how much snow the Wicklow Mountains got when daylight comes.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    That Ogimet link I gave you only publishes the manned metars duri g the day/evenng. The link below gives live automated metars and SPECI reports 24/7. I see there was a 75-kt gust just before 2 am. Seems to be the highest recorded anywhere.

    https://www.dawn-it.com/met/

    METAR EISG 080200Z AUTO 30042G75KT 5000 BR SCT017 OVC024 06/04 Q0977=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,780 ✭✭✭✭ninebeanrows


    Gusts at EIDW have been well below model predictions


    Max gust of 45 knots so far, that's not even Status Yellow



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gusting above 80 and 90kmh all night here in Arklow all night and still is

    Peak gust 98.2kmh




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,626 ✭✭✭✭M.T. Cranium


    I'm sure Graces7 was thinking of one or two posters in the other thread who seem to wish to stir up a bit of trouble in the weather forum by harping on the idea that conditions are benign where they are therefore no storm exists. If people just post that conditions are benign where they are and leave it at that, fair play. So as she said, I think maybe these comments were not aimed at Oneiric3 who is always careful to give a weather report for his own location and leave it at that. And I am not that troubled by any approach people take, if they want to affect a belief that no storm has taken place then they just end up making themselves look out of touch to anyone who has read the numerous reports to the contrary.

    I find this difficult enough without having to predict subjective reactions to the numbers, we're given a framework of forecasting by the numbers and by any reasonable standard this was a well predicted event. I am seeing signs of underprediction around Sligo in recent hours. School closings are not top of mind around the weather forum and I wish people would take that whole discussion to a more appropriate place, and I can't say where that is because I haven't looked around the whole domain of boards to find out. My interest in Irish school closings is of course rather limited in any case, surprised they don't at least close the windows though, that must be doing more harm than good to the overall health of the nation, but of course it's not an option we might consider where I live, with current temperature -12 C. (I am somewhat out of touch with the general run of things, for all I know Canadian kids are sitting there in full winter gear with the snow blowing around them, my own school days were not that much better tbh).



  • Registered Users Posts: 12 RuuupShligo


    Wind doesn't sound like it's easing in Sligo, nor has it since around 7pm last night. Lots of trees down following the County councils Facebook page, I'm working night shift and hoping day staff get here safely and on time!


    Haven't heard wind like this in Sligo in a while, constant gusts, with a background roar. Well it's kept me company tonight. Electricity held up despite flickering all night



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,565 ✭✭✭Pangea


    Impressive sustained winds all night in Donegal, some roads blocked by fallen trees so definitely a morning to stay in bed.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Gust of 96kmh in the past hour in Arklow



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,132 ✭✭✭malinheader



    Just listening to my local radio station and they stated that the greens and environmentalists are saying that these storms are becoming more frequent because of global warming.

    In North Donegal myself and a few others have noticed the severity of storms and sea swells we used to get up here are far less frequent than we used to get in the 80s 90s and early 00s and seem to be happening more south of the country now.

    Be interesting to hear any of your opinions on this.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,767 ✭✭✭Cluedo Monopoly


    So where is Sryanbruen's table? That's a Bingo! 😀

    What are they doing in the Hyacinth House?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,218 ✭✭✭pauldry


    Yes still roaring in Sligo and the whistle too I haven't heard Ince the 90s. Our lights flickered many times but it may be slowly abating. Certainly think the 75knot gust won't be repeated. Think we had one storm in the 2000s in Sligo that broke 130kph but not as high as 75knots.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,219 ✭✭✭Gaoth Laidir


    It's been proven time and time again in another thread that the opposite is true. Professor Thorne from Maynooth also highlighted this yesterday despite RTÉ's attempts to get him to say otherwise. The debate is in the 2020 climate events thread in this forum, not to go off topic here.

    It seems that the highest gust recorded was 75 knots at Sligo Airport at 01:59Z this morning. This is in a perfect location to get the full force of a northwesterly. From the spike shown below it would appear that it may have some convective origins and not purely just gradient wind.




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  • Registered Users Posts: 48 theMountain


    Cliffs of Moher Co Clare (MPH) Source Windguru




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