So UFOs aren't a theory anymore - but we still don't know what they are

Ok. So you argee that aliens have never been a explanation for anything either.

So why do you believe they are more plausible than other supernatural explanations that you reject on the basis that they've never been an explanation for anything?

Both explanations have never been the explanation for anything. Both require an assumption of physics we don't understand.

What's the difference between them to you apart from you just prefer one over the other.

Yes, I read your post. I'm asking you to explain it more.

Why do you believe that aliens are more plausible than other supernatural explanations.

I don't think you actually can explain this distinction.

As far as I can seen, appealing to aliens with essentially magic technology is not more plausible than appealing to other creatures who can use magic/physics we don't understand.

To me, both are equally implausible and not really worth considering seriously.

Again your reacting to my questions very oddly.

I didn't redefine anything and you still have not answered my question.

You are also misrepresenting my position unfairly to avoid my question.

I did not say that fairies and other supernatural creatures are as likely as life of other planets.

I'm saying that they are as likely as life from other planets who have hyper advanced knowledge to the point of magic who the also travel to earth and engage in inexplicable behaviour for no definable reason.

Fairies, Angels and Demons all have specific definitions to people who believe in them. So that is not a valid reason to exclude them as a possibility.

Especially when the definition of aliens to you is so broad and open.

So please try again without the over the top reactions about how silly you think the question is;

Why do you believe that aliens are more plausible than other supernatural explanations?

Well given that in this argument "aliens" are so vaguely defined and open that angels and Demons could be defined as "interdimensional energy beings who wish good or evil for humans".

There's many wooy newage people who would use such language to describe them as that or similar.

I think interdimensional energy beings are equally as plausible as aliens who break physics.

They could possibly exist, but that possibility is extremely slim to the point its not worth considering seriously.

Alright, but why do these aliens keep getting caught just out of focus, to be serious for a moment, how can that be explained?

Aliens are defined as life from another planet, their possibility is non-zero (as you have admitted) and therefore their plausibility is non-zero. Without any belief construct.

The same cannot be said for Fairies, Angels and Demons.

QED.

Why do you keep assuming that the photos YOU have seen are the only ones available ?

If there was a HD one issued tomorrow it would be immediately be judged to be a hoax.

Imagine the US navy issued a HD closeup photo of a flying disc and said the exact same as they are saying about their recently released videos. "We don't know what this is"

What would change only the goal posts ?

Why can the same not be said for angels Demons and fairies?

Many wooy types claim that these are beings from other universes or planes of existence. That's also a non zero possibility.

Okay, but there's nothing close to that

All the stories of UFO's "hovering overhead" are nowhere to be seen now that we all have pocket HD film cameras. If you show footage, I am very sure it will be just out of focus enough to be just about anything. One of the most recent pieces of footage I saw a year or two back which really got some people excited was obviously some sort of missile - it later turned out to be an anti-ship missile.

The fact that we've had these sightings for decades, and it's 100% consistent that the evidence is 100% inconsistent - well that's just approaching the point of impossibility in terms of probability. As several have mentioned, if some race is so advanced they can manage interstellar travel, then they could simply watch us from afar or undetected.

But again man you keep conflating the idea of life simply existing with the idea of aliens breaking physics, having magic and then wanting to visit us and do stuff that doesn't make sense.

Again I am not disputing the idea that alien life of some variety exists, you don't need to keep harping on about that point.

Is it possible regardless of what you personally believe, That there are entities that exist on a different plane of reality?

Just need a straight yes or no on this question.

If your answer is yes, then all of your logic and arguments equally apply to the idea of angels/demons/other supernatural creatures.

If your answer is no, then I would like to hear how you have made this conclusion.

Aliens are not necessarily life from another planet, they are just life that isn't from this planet

Its just as likely that these are interdimensional time travellers as they are super advanced aliens from across the known universe

In the many worlds interpretation of quantum theory, every time two particles interact, a new universe is created where multiple but conflicting states are true at the same time. This is a mathematically plausible theory even if it is completely ridiculous and would result in mindbogglingly large numbers of entire new universes coming into existence every instant of every nanosecond of every day

Or they could be glitches in the matrix, we're all plugged into a massive simulation that we're not aware of and these are either accidental glitches, or the system is trying to fu.ck with us

Or, in the most implausible scenario of all, it's just a bunch of people who got mixed up because their perceptions are flawed, and their mind plays tricks with them, and they're not actually as clever as they think they are, so they're reading a whole pile into a few blurry photos and testimony from equally flawed individuals.

On the balance of probabilities, I'm going with the multidimensional time travellers

I'm going with ultra-dimensional time travelers using the Mormon approved portal at Skinwalker ranch.

So another lobby group found someone to give them cash. What can these people do that the much touted super secret pentagon department couldn’t?