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Milk Price III

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Signs of a bit of weakness in markets for the summer, but gas prices in Europe are still crazy high, any fertilizer been produced in Europe at the minute is costing 700 euro plus for can and 1000 euro for urea, theirs noting to suggest prices crashing, its a sellers market very much so at the minute



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭green daries


    Stop will ya with dirty talk like that .......ya ought to be ashamed of yourself 🤣🤣🤣🤣😜



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭green daries


    Stop will ya with dirty talk like that .......ya ought to be ashamed of yourself 🤣🤣🤣🤣😜



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Glanbia cheese in wales with a price rise of 3 pence a litre from Jan 1st, up to 33p, 40 cent converted to euros….

    Great to see they can pay for milk when they have too



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    Just shows the sheer folly of the EU and its plans to ramp up organic production, and spells out loud and clear that the public masses want cheap food at the lowest possible price, with environmental concerns with how it's produced not even on the vast % of buyers minds....

    Interesting to see lidl are after giving an extra 4 pence a litre to muller suppliers that where locked in on a 29 cpl 3 year fixed contract as their was a genuine fear if they didn't, the contracted farmers simply wouldn't supply the volumes they were signed up for, our simply just quit milking altogether, the bigger herds over their are in serious trouble for Labour with the usual migrant polish/Eastern Europeans not around anymore with Brexit



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭straight


    I believe Kerry are negotiating the 13th payment currently. Trying to get 1 cent. Arbitration is restarting also.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,414 ✭✭✭✭Green&Red




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭kevthegaff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    And lmfm



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭kevthegaff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭whelan2




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭kevthegaff




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,020 ✭✭✭kevthegaff


    What do ye think will happen next year with price, will it reach 40 base and they'll hold for the year or will it keep rising. Arrabawn are using gas for processing, this will probably affect price



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,645 ✭✭✭roosterman71


    What Arrabawn use for processing shouldn't be a concern to the producer. This is another example of the farmer thinking they have to suffer as times are tough on the poor processor. No thought that maybe Arrabawn could charge a cent or 2 more to the consumer? Like, fertilizer uses gas to produce and that cost is fired down the line, not back up



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,305 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    It should Kev ,Arrabawn are using gas like most others ….they also benefited from the increased processing cost from ornua this year ….also the casein plant which we pumped millions into (wisely)is going v well and churning out quality premium products ….we should be at or v near 40 now if it wasn’t from the fallout of what happend in kilconell last year …I expect base to hit 40 but what processor is going to have the balls to hit it first ….our area meeting is in Birr next Monday night if u can you should attend



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,831 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The Ornua CEO gave an address at the ICMSA AGM, he said he was not predicting it but just informed farmers that generally a very high milk price was followed 12-24 months later by a very low milk price. At the same meeting the Minister for Agricultural also warned that even though Dairy was flying there was substantial challenges ahead. He quoted carbon, fertlizer prices and said he taught calf exports would be gone in five year.

    It was in this week FI, in general there was 2-3 very good different articles in it.

    Slava Ukrainii



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,305 ✭✭✭✭mahoney_j


    No one knows what will happen …this is not normal times …Covid and then all the enviro regs which are going be a quota in all but name then increased fertiliser ,feed ,fuel and power etc …supply and demand will remain in farmers favour I think



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭green daries


    Great point the co-ops are so toothless they are in a perfect position to tack on a nice increase across the board domestically.but no god help us what if we upset the multiplies 🤬🤬🤬😡😡😡😡........

    Rant over



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,426 ✭✭✭Wildsurfer


    The thing is at present input costs 40c is not a very high milk price!



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,714 ✭✭✭jaymla627


    It's just about keeping up with input inflation, but as regards capital purchases like new buildings/machinery etc its not....

    The fact world milk supplies are contracting on the back of record our near record prices tells its own tale, labour going forward is the greatest challenge facing dairying worldwide people just in the main don't want to milk cows and who'd blame them



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭straight


    It should be at least 50c. What price was it 40 years ago in today's money? The only reason processors will pay is to ensure supplies which they need in order to protect their own profits/margins. The amount of people willing to milk cows for 40c worldwide must be falling every day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,711 ✭✭✭✭whelan2


    Base of 37.18 cpl atm a long way off



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭straight


    Teagasc are forecasting the same price as 2021 for next year is it. I didn't pay much attention to the article.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,483 ✭✭✭cjpm


    Ornua CEO telling us to expect lower prices. Perhaps he should be telling his customers to expect higher prices instead. Oil has gone through the roof, yet he’s talking down milk prices here regardless



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,317 ✭✭✭green daries


    Ya it really sticks in the craw when they start softening Paddy up for a fall. FFS everything is going up as of now. and as it happens there a few cents per litre off the rest of the world price wise. the latest muttering from co-op reps is oh sure look at the cost of shipping blah blah. Just add the costs up the chain not down to the primary producer



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,061 ✭✭✭alps


    RtE radio 6pm news item on current inflation...fuel 28%..electricity 18%..rent 4%.. all running mad..

    Food..0.01%..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,611 ✭✭✭Mooooo


    Same on business section on todayfm, no linking of energy costs to food...



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,910 ✭✭✭straight


    Sure the dairy farmers are highly profitable... Food and shelter are human beings most important needs. Shelter and cheap rent was taken for granted for long enough. It's about time food was valued alot more than it is.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,831 ✭✭✭✭Bass Reeves


    The biggest mistake that any business can make is that you costs will always be covered. Inflation is immaterial. My own opinion is feedlots will struggle to produce milk or meat. However most may have forward bought product for 4-8 months. This could carry them through to.mud summer next year. It way happens next March/ April that will decide what they do. If they think the market will not cover costs they will not continue production, they will cull cows until price reflects costs.

    Most Irish product, cheese, butter, dairy products are tied to long term contracts, that was why when during the high priced Glanbia/ Kerry struggled while Dairygold paid a great milk price as it basically sold most product as milk powder. When you the glut came 12-18 months later Dairygold's price struggled if I remember right.

    Slava Ukrainii



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