BoJo banished - Liz Truss down. Is Rishi next for the toaster? **threadbans in OP**

The man has a neck on him - it may take a bit more than this to shift him.

Bit like ourselves? Perhaps we are not that different after all....

Just for the record the conservative majority in the last election in North Shropshire in 2019 was 22,949 votes. Now obviously the reasons behind this by election will play a part in that being reduced, but you’d think that the conservatives will be watching the margin if they hold or lose the seat because by elections are always referred to as a referendum on a government, and while this one result even if the tories lose the seat, won’t make someone challenge the prime minister but it might make them realise that they need to cop on.

That’ll never happen, especially not in Ireland. The Irish have a very parochial mindset, for better and worse. Example: the parish pump politics. The Irish like to feel they “know” their politicians and that they could verbally take them down a peg or two when needed. And when you want to do that, you’d be on the back foot starting with (Mr) Martin or Varadkar instead of plain old Mehole and Leo. I don’t think you’ll be able to change that tradition.

No chance she is not liked at all....Rishi Sunak feels like the most likely successor to me

It's common every where, maybe you need to broaden your horizons.

Labour are trying to get its act together but alot of the party activists have absolutely no interest in power.

The main ace card for the Tories on the doorstep is pointing at Labour.

That's on Labour.

The way he flatly give zero fooks about Cummingsgate and his attitude to this current party problem leads me to believe he ain't going anywhere.

He is dangerous.

He's not Robert Mugabe; if his party turns against him he has to go

If you have no morals you can survive anything, so he'll be fine, as he doesn't give a fck

Mr Lowry is a perfect example of that....

If we want to place bets on an outside successor to Johnson, Rees-Mogg might be just awful enough to reach the latter stages of a leadership contest. Rees-Mogg would be Johnson 2.0 I think, he is pretty influential within the party through his role in the ERG

He's never been given a ministerial role of any note, so if he has any ambition to do anything other than sneer from the sidelines, he might put himself forward in a leadership race or back someone of his ilk, like Michael Gove

If Priti Patel or Michael Gove get anywhere near Number 10, then it would be a very very dark time ahead for the UK, not sure which of those 2 I despise more, but Patel does seem less shy about exposing her nasty side.

You're comparing events that were attended by some politicians in a private capacity, which happened during Summer when infection rates were very low and restrictions were loose and there were enough grey areas for attendees to reasonably claim they didn't know guidelines were not followed, with a party organised and held right in the seat of power at the height of a full winter lockdown in a country that had been suffering death numbers far in excess of anything Ireland had experienced.

And in the case of the Irish events people were held to account and some lost their jobs, while we've seen nothing but lying and scapegoating in Westminster.

He is well holed below water and while it may not end him, it does mark the beginning of the end.

He'll be lucky to last 12 months.

Patel will appeal to working class communities with a lot of her views to date but needs to deliver in them, as ever the over leaning towards free market dogmatism is a threat.

Sunak is probably hard to beat and has it sown up.

The next mess by Johnson is quickly approaching, whatever it is.

If Mr and Mrs Johnson come walking down Downing St tomorrow with the new baby in a pram then he’s back in the game!

Ah for **** sake. Pure nonsense.