Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Interesting use of words..."To get vaccines into our most marginalized and vulnerable",presumably,with their informed consent ?

If that consent is'nt forthcoming from any in your chosen group,will there be Security on hand to restrain them whilst you ready the syringe ?

Good Morning Britain were discussing it as well. Clearly lots of 'kite flying' going on.

Can we change the thread title. As the restrictions have increased since yesterday its a bit of a conspiracy to say they are being relaxed..

Wasn't Simon Harris talking about it in 2019?

so current member of government has brought up the idea. It has been discussed.

discussed for Health care.

So it's not completely off the table for certain people. Once it's okay then it's easily expanded.

Just like passes were only for indoor dining. But are now for gyms. (Well some gyms)

GMB ran a Twitter poll that came up as something like 80% against mandatory vaccination with 50k respondents.

Then they deleted it. 😂

I’ve been disappointed with how many people think principles are just things you pretend to believe when it’s easy to do so.

Well that's a bit tangential, if people post here mention the unvaccinated, the loons pile on and talk endlessly about the few people who can't be vaccinated (you'll see the same people start every post about how vaccines and restrictions don't work of course).

But if you have a better name for the group who can be vaccinated but chose not to, then suggest the label (other than the star child "we're all people" response).

A good start would be to just call them unvaccinated. It's simple and straight to the point without needlessly labelling it in a derogatory manner. Personally, I don't care if someone is vaccinated or not because, to be quite frank, it's none of my business. I got the vaccine for my own reasons, which is a personal decision but I'm not going to lecture someone for not taking it. That's on them to live with.

We are now at the stage where the deficiencies of the health system have been completely laid bare for all to see. Some think we need to vaccinate children to keep protecting it or that going after the remaining 6/7% is worth it. I personally don't think it’s going to make much difference to the abundance of caution approach by the NPHET/ HSE. our biggest problem right now is that we need to increase ICU capacity to that of a semi functioning health care system and try get on a par with the EU average. Can this be done overnight? Of course not. But I don't for one second agree that this government should be using emergency legislation to curb our rights while at the same time demonising a section of society for doing something that is completely within their rights to do, ie not take a vaccine.

The vaccines work, this thing is done. What we currently have is a political game of cover your arse to distract from the massive failings of the HSE and successive governments.

Restrictions didn't work so we needed a vaccine. Vaccines didn't work well enough so we still need restrictions..so we will get more vaccines which will then need more restrictions to increase vaccine up take..rinse and repeat. 2 years lad...2 years.

Restrictions never stopped the rise of the virus.

Case numbers in Sweden peaked in January the same time they peaked here. Then dropped in summer.

Virus gonna virus.

Very true

How about “pro choice”?

Sadly I'd expect the opposite result here

Do you see any room in this world of yours for earth mothers, homeopaths, alternative medicine practitioners any more? Everyone has to lay down and take it? Despite life long held convictions to never put products that they believe not of natural origin in their bodies?

All just antivax idiots?

I'm vaccinated, not really an alternative therapies kinda person but there's more than just followers of Facebook groups with their reasons for not taking vaccines.

We've decided they've no place anymore and they are the root of all our ills.

Sickens me to be honest