Cycle infrastructure planned for south Dublin

It is though. You've shoehorned that point in many times. The cycle way in no way impedes their access to the store. Supervalu, illegally blocking it for years and years though causes far more issues than having them use the alternative.

In the last day, you've reiterated it, hence shoehorning. IT's not you alone.

IT's been done to death on this very thread. First it was the elderly of Sandymount being locked into their houses, then it was the elderly being cut open by some sort of vicious wind another imagined and then there was the Rathfarnham on a Sunday.

It's the "won't somebody think of the children" method of trying to make a point. Maybe the elderly would cycle, if they knew that the lane would be unobstructed at all times.

If I want to make a change to somewhere in front of my property, I don't expect the council to come up with a solution. I go to them with a proposal. Supervalu have just carried on though, no matter what changes were made, what laws were in place for their illegal blocking of a mandatory lane.

Supervalu have a very easy way of solving it. Using their fleet of at least 50 smaller trucks to deliver into shops such as this one. Elderly people are still going to be able to get their shopping, that will still be delivered into the store quite easily by using the appropriate loading bay across the road.

But why are you bringing this up. They can still walk / drive and use the car park. You're making it out as if supervalu not being able to use a dedicated cycle lane as a loading bay, will force them to starve or something (hyperbole is deliberate).

Nothing here is preventing them getting to and from the store. Yet you have brought it up so it deserves to be questioned. The valuable service they offer can be done, without them damaging proeprty.

Superquinn. Neither the four provences, Superquinn, Supervalu/Musgraves, Rosebud Sports Ltd or Flyefit have applied for any sort of change to enable a loading bay facility there or in the area. They've applied for changes to the front, permission to have things done out back, basements, extensions, add stories, add awnings, but never have they applied to change anything to do with loading and have just taken it for granted that they can use the public road and cycle lane.

Can't work with the council if they don't look to solve the issue in the first place

Supervalu was previously Super Quinn. Prior to 2007 it was the Four Provences pub. All of the planning applications that they had made as far back as 1997 are available to view online. Not once did they seek to address the loading bay issue.

You are saying that they have to be able to get goods in, from these trucks and that only on that side of the road though. In a roundabout way, but that's what your saying. The loading bay across the road, is suitable for the vast majority of Musgraves delivery fleet. As someone has said they have an entire logisitics division. The larger trucks have no place being there

IT's been an issue for as long as that mandatory cycle lane has been there, which is at least 12 years, and likely longer. Even when it was 7am-7pm. it was a mandatory lane, meaning it could not be parked in, could not be driven in, and could not be used as a loading bay. They have used it as thus the entire time. they simply didn't bother to address the situation.

So why, why on earth is it for the council to propose a solution, when Supervalu/Musgrave have not asked for one. They've ignored for over a decade the laws regarding the lane, and are now destroying property in the process.