Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Great article and I’ve posted up a couple by Mark Paul in the past.

This line stood out for me;

”But surely then there would be a desire for people to prove they had the new Omicron vaccine booster, and a renewed clamour to extend the vaccine pass system all over again.”

Virtue signalling being called out, first time for me seeing that in widely-seen national media (would say MSM but know what that would label me).

They skew younger than the vaccinated and it was in reply to this:

If we had more of our hospital capacity available then less restrictions would be needed, the last 6-7% are probably a lost cause, so we'll be restricted until spring time.

You think they are admitted for something else then get counted as a COVID patient? There are separate numbers for non-COVID admittances, but do elaborate, you might be close to blowing the case wide open.

I like reading your posts but something about this 50% puzzles me.

I agree the vaccine has helped in reducing hospital cases and deaths substantially.

87% of ICU admissions have underlying conditions according to something I read here.

Let's say there is 100 in ICU because my maths suck to make it easier for me.

There are 87 people with underlying conditions in ICU vaxxed and unvaxxed who who would probably be there regardless of vaccination status?

That leaves 13 people with no underlying conditions who are in ICU.

We don't know what ages for anyone but I may have read there are 40 pregnant unvaxxed women in ICU,lets say almost half of everyone in ICU is pregnant but unvaxxed.

We are probably looking at 6 or 7 unvaxxed people in the whole country in ICU who have no underlying conditions or are pregnant?

If these numbers are even close to being right, we are been restricted due to 6 or 7 people?

I was surprised at that figure, so a quick google and yes, 34 unvaccinated pregnant women have been in ICU..... for the entire year. Not currently in ICU. That's a massive difference.

Strange the BBC aren't leading about Johnson looking at mandatory vaccinations.

He only said it warrants a discussion, but of course Ursula said the same and received a little different press coverage.

They have killed off over 62K to get there!

Poster seems to be praising Florida for an extremely shambolic response to COVID, we went a different route and no amount of your very irate whataboutery will change that. The US response is not one for any other country to aspire to, anymore than the UK's or Brazil's was.

I'd echo Don't Chute's comments but I'd add that we shouldn't forget that this isn't a new situation - we have poured 20 BILLION euros annually (plus top-ups) into the HSE for decades at this point and yet every year we have the same reports of the service being on the brink of collapse in winter, patients on trolleys, ridiculously long waiting lists (with people dying or suffering in pain if they can't afford private insurance or going abroad), and staffing not where it needs to be in the areas that need it.

All Covid has done is provide a convenient excuse/get out over the last 18 months for these long standing problems but the fault and responsibility for this lies entirely with HSE management and the Department/successive ministers for Health, although the latter are - to be fair - working with one hand tied behind their backs because of union resistance and overly generous contracts written in/based on a different era.

As I have said many times before, post July 2020 (and certainly post July 2021 when the vaccination programme really took hold) all we have really been protecting is this ongoing waste, incompetence and inertia in what we laughably call a health "service" (but I suppose "employment scheme" wouldn't look good from a PR perspective). THIS is why we still have restrictions, blame-shifting among the population and scaremongering - as usual it's the Irish tactic of pitting one group against another to distract from the real issue!

I can't see the US approach ever figuring anywhere on lists of what's good to do. Their own list of failures is extremely long.

It was pretty much copied in Europe (BioNtech/Pfizer was first out of the gates), the UK (Oxford), Russia (Sputnik) and China (Sinovac/Pharm), so it did very well but not really any better than the rest of the superpowers.

If the Swine Flu had emerged in 2020 and not 2009, would we have had these lockdown measures? I firmly believe that lockdowns are the byproduct of the overabundance of information we have at our disposal.