Minimum Alcohol pricing to be signed into Law

Let's be honest, people would be more upset if it was a duty hike which affected all booze.

But, yes, mup is a really stupid idea,imo.

Reputable Rog wrote: »

Just looking at Tesco UK website today and a weekend away in NI or one of the border counties is a very attractive proposition, great bargains to be had on a lot of the wines I would buy here, Torres Centanaro £6, €12 here, good range of ales 4 for £5. Sainsbury’s and Asda good deals as well. Lidl NI a bit harder to get a handle on. M&S good deals to be had as well.

Lidl in UK lags a lot behind the other retailers for good beer (or it did when I lived there 2-3 years ago). The english ale selection was always great value once you had identified a few favourites (there is a regional aspect to the good stuff) and the multibuys kicked ass.

But Tesco/Waitrose seemed to have the best beer selection, while still having great value options, ASDA had a decent selection at great prices, Sainsbury seemed to have a weaker selection, and M&S had great options but were expensive across the board.

Dont know how London beer selection in UK supermarkets translates to Newry / Derry / Enniskillen, but its worth a punt I would say.

Not at the moment but there is political support for the idea there.

Sinn Fein supported it in the Oireachtas and the DUP are historically a bit averse to "the devil's buttermilk".

While they are making up their mind we can make our cross border pilgrimages.

So they can continue to screw poor Pat with €6.00 pints.

These lads need to get real.

Aah heeyur……. a few months on a slab of Karpackie …. I’d tip the fookher up no problem.

It will be interesting to see public reaction. This is far more costly than say the water charges for people drinking the low cost alcohol. People drinking cheap booze at the HSE low risk limit of 17 units per week will face a rise of nearly 500 euro per year. Heavy drinkers would put away 3-4times that.

Also the majority of people I know are still under the impression that this is a tax, and the pro lobby have knowingly kept quiet about this.

I expect it will be hugely negative for the Irish cider industry too.

Following the latest Covid restrictions, which will be reviewed on the 11th of Jan. Also the MUP coming into force on the 4th of Jan. I can see a lot of normal bar drinkers being shocked at the price of their normal tipple in the supermarket.

I predict that any criticism or pushback against MUP will be labelled as "evidence" that it was needed;

"See all this complaining just proves how desperate Irish people are for a drink, these new rules are there for their own good"

Was in Lidl the other day and noticed that they were selling off all their stock of Perlenbacher 12 packs of cans at half price presumably to make way for whatever is coming after Jan 1st. They might be replacing it with those awful 440ml cans in an effort to keep the price as close as possible to what it was.

yeah either gone for good or back as smaller 440ml cans

that reply is not relevant to the main criticism it should face, -i.e. that it is not a tax. That was the main argument they had against the Scottish, that was going against EU law as a rise in taxes could have done the same job. So it seemingly goes against EU law, and is cetainly unfair on manufacturers of cheaper to produce drinks, e.g. the Irish cider industry. As it is not a tax it is only effecting those drinking the cheapest drinks. So even those in favour of the idea or a price hike should be against MUP, even it it was still not a tax they should be favouring some other sort of increase across the board to "help" more people.

Some say publicans would be hit by excise as an excuse, -well if it is such a dangerous drug so what? There was little sympathy for headshop owners when what they sold was outright banned. And sure we are told if you drink at safe limits you will barely notice the difference, why should it be different for pub goers, who probably have more disposable income than those most hit under current plans.

And some say supermarkets would absorb excise increases not matter what it is, which is ludicrous, but if it did happen you could have a below cost law brought in again, more detailed than before if needed.

Question on how much a can will go up by? So it's 10c per gramme of alcohol, a can of Guinness has 17 grammes in it...would I be right in saying a can of Guinness is at a MINIMUM going to be €1.70?

Surely not. Surely.

24 cans now are €24.

MINIMUM they can be from Saturday is €40.80... but the real kicker here is if the likes of the cheapo beer with higher alcohol content costs more PER CAN because of those facts then surely the premium brands will want to charge a premium price.

Is drink doubling in price overnight?

That's about right regarding the price but we will have to wait to see how the different brands will be marketed.

By the way last day for stocking up is Monday. MUP comes in on Tuesday Jan 4th.