No quitten we're whelan on to chitchat 11

Great finish to the Formula 1 earlier, I haven’t had much interest in it in over 20 years at this stage but this season brought a lot of people back into it I’d say.

There hasn’t been as good a last 5 minutes since Offaly v Limerick in 94😂😂

Beware the grant your going to end up doing what they want and I hear they are not to gone on coated sheeting or tile effect on roofs probably wouldn't allow a ring beam either only barges as far as I know....

Got a rough "guesstimate" of €19,000 from a lad, but he didn't know when he could start.....

Have to do more pricing of materials.

Unless you could do a good bit of it yourself, it'd be prohibitively expensive, and I'm working off farm as well....

Asked my farm planner about the "Traditional Farm Buildings" grant, but he claims that despite entering a number of people into it, none were chosen.

To put it back the way it was involves a lot of timber!

Come on, it was a complete disgrace. Masi has been out of his depth since day. Today he allowed himself to be swayed by a desperate team and didn't follow the safety car rules. Very unsatisfactory way to end the season. Hamilton didn't deserve that today. Wouldn't blame him for becoming disillusioned with the whole thing and he retired.

It probably was a disgrace the way the decisions were made but to be fair there were plenty of disgraceful decisions made all during the season that benefited Hamilton and without them he’d have been nowhere near Verstappen going into today’s race so I suppose it just balances out. Today’s decisions will be remembered because it was the last race of the season but like in a match, a goal in the first minute is worth the same as a goal in the last minute.

The most obvious one would be Hamilton driving his front wheel into Verstappen’s back wheel and pushing him off the track and out of the race in Silverstone with Hamilton then going on to win and Verstappen obviously getting nothing from the race. The red flag in Imola benefitted Hamilton to get from 9th up to second the same as the safety car benefitted Verstappen today. Hamiltons team mate Bothas took out both Red Bull cars in Hungary by literally ramming them off the track.

You don’t even need to go that far back, just look at the first lap today when Hamilton went off the track and cut straight through 2 corners to get back ahead of Verstappen after being overtaken and no action being taken.

Whoever won doesn’t really make a difference to me, I’m a very casual viewer, but I definitely think there couldn’t have been a better season or finale to bring a casual viewer back into it or bring new viewers in

But anyway there are full threads dedicated to this elsewhere on boards so no point getting bogged down in the detail on the farming chitchat.

I was talking to the local builders merchant last week and he thinks the same. He’s of the opinion supply is increasing and demand slightly dropping for a lot of materials and thinks that once the timber starts dropping in price a lot of the other materials should follow suit. Although he’s not expecting it to drop anywhere near the amount it has risen in the last 12-18 months but every little helps I suppose.

As I said earlier I agree it was a disgrace the way it ended. The only point I was trying to make after that is the decisions balanced themselves out over the season. But like a match you’ll remember the last minute decision and not the first minute decision when the game is over.

Is lakil still on here? He used to do accounts.

Sister landing in from Canada in a couple of hours. Parents don't know. Big surprise as she's not been home in 30 months. Auld pair in their wisdom have decided to go to Killarney for the week. Their first few days away in 2 years! Gotta drive to Dublin now soon, then to Killarney and back home for work in the morning.

They better be happy she's home.

I bet they'll be thrilled, be some surprise for her to show up on their week away.

Well, almost 100% decided to go with cladding.

The building is 20 metres long and the pitch on the roof needs 4.25 metre long sheet each side.

Black box profile with the PVC "leather grain" finish will come in at €3100 including vat.

Add in the required timber and flashing etc, and materials shouldn't be much along with €4500.

For a building that has no real use except to park a car, and at the other end a small room that would hold two ewes and lambs, that's lots.

The middle of the building was a forge with bellows etc, and a 6 foot fireplace that had a big cast iron cauldron for boiling spuds etc for pigs.

Save the slates and they will do some other project.

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Where is it located? If converted into rentable housing there could be an income of €700/month in the current market. Fence off ten foot from the buildings to secure access to the farm yard? Don't know the situation, but is it worth considering?

I know of an neighbour that built a slatted shed, said he was sorry he didn't spend the money doing out bindings for rent, thought it would have made a better return.

Anyone watching Claire Byrne and assisted dying, No doubt there's a place for it, but it's some decision to make when you're mentally sound

You could be always put the slates up on Done Deal see they are making around €1 each, could get you back some of your investment. But the idea of turn into something residential in is a good idea. I know a few people that have out buildings like that and rent them out as Air B&B, works out well for them...