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the 'there's no such thing as a stupid question' bike maintenance thread

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Anyone know a hack way to stop an isis / square taper bb tool slipping.


    I don't have a long enough m8 bolt anywhere, and I need to remove it asap.


    I'm borrowing a different tool from magicbastarder tomorrow morning to try out, hoping the teeth are a bit more grippy, but still not sure



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    Champagne comes to mind, twist the bottle not the cork!!!! Clamp the tool and twist the frame?



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    I've no clamp. Hence why I looked for a long m8 bolt to keep the tool locked on.


    I got my last 3 off no problem. This one though, just doesn't want to



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    How long does the bolt need to be?


    Where abouts are you located, @Weepsie



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    About 60mm. In Dublin. Has to have a 1mm pitch as opposed to 1.25 (,not entirely sure what that means)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,091 ✭✭✭KAGY


    Pitch is how much the bolt moves for each revolution, the distance between the thread. 1.25 is standard for m8, you need one that's marked as "fine" pitch . Good luck finding that in local hardware. Auto parts place might be better bet



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    Ill have a look, might have a fine pitch M8 bolt here. Not sure where you are in Dublin, but if your driving distance of Naas, pm me and we can sort something out



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    if you count the threads along the bolt, that'd mean there's a thread every 1.25mm as opposed to every 1mm. as KAGY mentioned, it means the bolt will travel that little bit further for each revolution.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,749 ✭✭✭Large bottle small glass



    https://www.gym-fit.co.uk/Bottom-Bracket-Removal-Tool-Square-Taper-Type-Ha-p/gf.sbbb30.htm


    The youtube clip would be the solution if really stuck but I've taken off a bottom bracket from a steel bike which was stored outside for years using the tool with handle. A bolt with a flat washer, and a pipe over handle should work. Penetrating oil first might help.

    If unsure go with the youtube clip, if tool slips you are goosed



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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    It's the bolt and washer I really need. Have the tool and a wrench.


    Managed to get non drive side off anyway. Have used some crack it freeze spray and hoping that does something to the drive side



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    i brought my genesis, with factory fitted BB, aroundn to humphries a few years ago to replace the BB.

    jimmy told me after that it took two of them with a pipe extender on the wrench to get it loose. 'that was put in by a lad who knew he'd never have to take it back out again' said jimmy.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    Went out to the shed when I got home from work, Weepsie. Unfortunately, I don't have a bolt, or a threading die, of the right size.

    I will be in Ted Johnson's hardware on Thursday. They have the widest range of odd sized hardware I've ever seen. If they have a suitable bolt, I'll pick one up, it'll only be cents



  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 20,330 Mod ✭✭✭✭Weepsie


    Sorry, got the thing off. It's for the bin, but it's off



  • Registered Users Posts: 44 breadevery


    New bike coming in February (I hope!). It’s 11 speed GRX. Current bike has 10 speed Tiagra cassette , but the rear wheel is 11 speed,compatible with a spacer . I’d love to be able to swap wheel sets between the 2 bikes quickly without having to change cassettes etc. Is there a way of setting up them to be compatible with one another?



  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭nicksnikita




  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭ARX


    Why does my chain sometimes drop off the small chainring when slowing down to stop? The front derailleur is correctly adjusted, and it happens only every few weeks. I can't figure out what the cause is. I have a chain catcher which I've yet to fit - I'd rather fix the cause than the symptom. On the other hand, perhaps the existence of chain catchers indicates that it can happen even with a correctly adjusted front derailleur.



  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 49,418 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    no issues of wear on the drivetrain?



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    Are you 100% definite that the front derailleur is correctly adjusted? in my experience they are more finnicky than the rear derailleur.


    Other things to check


    Check the crankset and bottom bracket

    If the crankset is loose, it can move sideways during pedaling, which can allow the chain to come off. So make sure the crankarms are securely attached and that there’s no side-to-side play in the crankarm or bottom bracket. Some bottom brackets can be tightened. Worn out ones will need to be replaced, but they’re not overly expensive.

    Check the chainrings

    If the chainrings wobble side to side, that can throw the chain off, too. Loose chainring bolts can cause this, so check all of them with the appropriate wrench to ensure they’re tight. Once you know the bolts are tight, check the chainrings to make sure they spin straight and true. Just sight from above as you turn the crank by hand. If there are wobbles, you should true the chainrings or have it done (you don’t need new chainrings).

    Check the lower derailleur pulley

    Sometimes the lower pulley (called the idler pulley) will be misaligned with the chain. Since its job is steering the chain correctly, when it gets bent, it can cause the chain to drop. The easiest way to see this problem is to stand behind the bicycle as someone else shifts through all the gears. The pulley should remain perfectly aligned with the chain. If the chain is trying to come off the side of the pulley in some gears (usually toward the outside shifting limits), gently bending the pulley back in line could solve your chain drop.


    Edited to add: have you checked that the serailleur is alligned correctly with the chain?



  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭ARX


    No, it's a new Sora drivetrain, fitted it to a new build and it's been happening since the beginning.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭ARX


    I'm sure it's correctly fitted, but of course that means only that I'm sure that it's correctly fitted, not that it's correctly fitted :)

    I fitted the crankset myself (new build with new drivetrain) and everything was torqued to spec. I didn't think of checking the chainring bolts, I'll check those, thanks.

    I've checked the RD as well, as far as I can see it's spot on.

    I think I may be running out of talent here so it might be best to have Joe Daly take a look (they did a lovely job of truing a wheel for me the other day btw).

    Thanks for the suggestions!



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    So, I have ordered a new bike, which will be the mosrt expensive bike I've ever owned, and as such the first bike that might be worth buying upgrades for. The bike will be alu frame, but there are carbon models too.


    I see online that you can buy replcemant carbon seatposts for the carbon frame, but they would also fit the bike I'm buying.


    Question is, are there issues with a carbon post in an alu frame.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,242 ✭✭✭07Lapierre


    No except you must use carbon paste and not grease to lube inside the seat tube. If you use grease, the seat post will keep slipping down.



  • Registered Users Posts: 147 ✭✭what?


    howdy

    Can quick release wheel, thingys be replaced with screw on bolts easily enough?


    ta very, happy Christmas etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,962 ✭✭✭cletus


    Yeah, just google bolt on skewers, security skewers, or allen key skewers



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Any recommendations for a Bluetooth cadence sensor, non too expensive, reliable & preferably one where i can change the battery without having to break it apart?



  • Registered Users Posts: 533 ✭✭✭Mr. Cats


    The cranks on my bike are not spinning freely. I took them off and the bottom bracket on drive side whilst turning is a bit rough/gravelly whilst on non drive side it’s very difficult to get it to spin/turn at all. It’s a press fit on an alu frame, about 6 years old. Is the bb toast or can it be cleaned in some way?

    If it is toast, is it worth buying the tools to extract and fit a new one myself? I like to be able to do most things at home but am wondering if replacing bb is a step too far for someone who just tinkers around? Maybe with an alu frame there’s less chance of an expensive cock up?



  • Registered Users Posts: 940 ✭✭✭nicksnikita


    Sounds like the bearings are bust and need to be replaced.

    It’s possible to replace bearings without any specialist tools. A hammer and something blunt can be used for removal while a length of threaded bar, some washers and nuts can be used to press the new ones in.

    Just make sure exactly what type of bb you’re dealing with and do some research about replacing that type of bb before you kick-off.

    Should be doable if you’re used to removing and installing other components and servicing your own bike etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 85 ✭✭stevencn88


    I've had this on the bike for near 5000km now and I've only just changed the battery this morning, very easy to do. Simple to fit to the crank and very cheap. Also connects easily with the Garmen. Would recommend if you are looking to keep costs to a minimum.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,105 ✭✭✭Mundo7976


    Cheers for that, looks decent alright. Have one on the way now 👍🏻



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