smart meter installation

Tariffs are not in anyway affected by the installation of a smart meter, Customers are under no obligation to change to smart tariffs. This said some might suit users who use a lot of electricity, I'm a low user and without exception all smart tariffs offered by EI are extraordinarily expensive if a low usage customer.

Re OP question, installers should be able to install and work with what's there, it's really just replacing what you have.

There's various conspiracy theory threads dealing with privacy concerns, personally I don't get any of them. If a consumer is concerned that a utility supplier is facilitating more accurate meter reading and billing or facilitating (in time) smart features so be it, but that's something I can't explain or answer.

I was not aware you needed a smart meter to export surplus. I can't be sure if there's a specific day night facility/ tariff as such but there are night time lower rates etc. Not sure what supplier your with but EI list their 3 smart tariffs.

I suppose your situation a little more complex re exporting surplus energy and may need direct advice from supplier.

Would love to have the Solar myself albeit given I use so little it's hard for me to justify the expense but fair play to you, particularly if you can export and earn from it 😏

The smart meter can do any kind of tariff including day & night.

Hes an unadulterated grump. I've tried talking to him many occasions. You know there's actually people out there who simply are grumpy. And they're happy in their grumpiness. He's one.

I can relate, grumpiness was one thing but then entering my house uninvited when I was in the garden was a step to far and was dealt with by way of a Bolloxing (I'm a dub living in rural Ireland 20 years, my best Dublin slang and expletives were dispatched with Gusto), oddly enough the Meter reader's demeanour changed positively for the last year he called 😁

Smart meter was put in. A good few houses on the street had their meters changed in the few days before. I did not want it at all. I told esb networks I did not want it but was told I had no choice. The engineer arrived 3 times without warning.

Guess what… usage has gone up. I know unit rates have gone up across the board but my standing charge has increased as well. Not happy at all. I would like my old meter back!

Can I ask them to replace back to standard meter?

By the way the idea of free electric on one day at the weekend does not appeal to me. I don’t use a clothes dryer and do not use the washing machine every day.

Do not know how ESB Networks picks the houses to change. Paying €130 bimonthly before. Now up by €30. More than likely they will expect us to pay monthly on new price plans.

Which provider are you with and what has your standard charge gone from / to? What has your unit rate changed from / to?

That's not true.

I got one early 2020, was with energia, remained on the 24 hour tariff. I switched to BG in October 2020, chose to be on the 24 hour tariff. I switched to SSE October 2021 was on the 24 hour tariff, i then chose to enabled the smart services as it will save me money based on my usage.

Oops 2020

Im with sse 30% smart tariff, after i had the smart meter installed i remained on the energia 24 hour tariff then i switched to bord gais 24 hour tariff, then i switched to the sse 24 hour ttariff (i actually requested the smart tariff but it did not happen so i requested the smart tariff) So it is absolutely not true that you get put onto a smart tariff automatically.

Whats the unit cost though? Go into bonkers.ie and put in your usage and check the smart meter button.

Then go back in and put in the usage again and check the standard meter button.

You will find that the standard meter tariffs are cheaper.

Just trying to help you out here. No need for the abuse.

I looked up your tariff. You can get far cheaper without the smart meter. I suggest you swallow your pride and look into it before declaring it nonsense.

If you would just do as i asked and post your unit cost including the discount im sure any competent person here can look it up and see that you can get cheaper on the standard meter than the smart meter.

The issue is that smart meter tariffs are more expensive than standard or even day/night tariffs.

The point is Switching from smart to smart tariff tells is simple more expensive than if you still had the option of the standard tariffs, but you dont, since you switched.

Can you not just accept that the next time you change after you get your smart meter installed that only smart tariffs are available to you and they are more expensive than standard tariffs. Thats how simple it is.

Anyway it doesnt really matter. People should just be aware to check out the tariffs that will be available to them to change to when they change their plan going forward with a smart meter. Anyone can do the comparison then on bonkers and check what their new tariffs will compare with and without a smart meter.

I think you are just suffering from buyers remorse and an inability to admit when you are wrong, which is why you are being so vague and unwilling to post your unit rates (they are the difference when you are on the smart meter).

All ium saying is for people to look before they jump.

Eh? Way to just change the discussion to something else.

So let's go back and try again....

This is not true, you stay on a 24 hour contract after you get a smart meter installed, you also can move provider without getting a smart tariff.