New Alternative News Channel "GB News" chaired by Andrew Neil launching - read OP before posting

Let's put it another way: let's say that a prominent public figure argued that paedophilia should be included to LGBT, to make it LGBTP.

Now, nobody would be up in arms calling it "fascist" to argue that no such "national conversation" should be had on the matter. We know it's wrong and no such conversation should be had. That would be the end of the matter. I'm sure you would find a tiny % of nutters who would go around shouting, "this is fascist" not to let the conversation happen, but nutters are everywhere.

The same principle applies to what Farage was saying; that mandatory vaccinations are an affront to civil liberties because no adult should be forced by the state to have a medical procedure against their consent; that it's counter to the way that medicine is supposed to act and how politicians should behave.

To call Farage's remarks fascist is equally as absurd and just as nutty.

The point is that both are wrong, and both are not "fascist" to oppose. We don't need nor want a national conversation about either. It's just common sense to be against both positions.

You wouldn't come along and declare it "fascism" if prominent public figures were proposing something as outrageous as that and people were against having those kinds of national conversation, would you? Precisely.

The underlying principle remains the same. That not holding a national conversation on something is not, by default, "fascist".

You are very quick to apply the term to Farage, but when the principle is applied to other cases, you step away from this extreme claim.

It is not automatically fascist to oppose national conversations on topics. It's an absurd belief (as my example above has clearly illustrated).

You argued that Farage and GB News is fascistic for arguing that a "national conversation should be prevented on mandatory vaccinations".

Are you willing to answer my question?

The 99.95% of the population who oppose a "national conversation" on including the P in LGBT; are they "fascist" for opposing the "national conversation"?

Of course they're not; they're absolutely right to oppose it. It wouldn't make them fascist at all. And that's my whole point: you trying to link "national conversations being prevented" with "fascism" is absolutely extreme.

And by similar logic, Farage isn't a fascist for opposing a national conversation on mandatory medical procedures for adults against their consent.

The point is that borderline everyone is against it - and nobody is a fascist for saying that a national conversation shouldn't happen on the subject.

You're dancing around the issue without addressing it, and it's quite clear why.

More evasion.

1,200 people currently watching the GB News YouTube Live streams, actually (with Mercy Muroki and Patrick Christys).

The BARB figures should be out soon for November, perhaps within a week. It'll be interesting to see whether my prediction holds up that November's TV channel views will buck the trend of the past couple of months, or I could end up with egg all over my face.

I happened to be right about YouTube figures, though, much to the chagrin of some.

A far more realistic comparison would be opt out for organ donation or assisted suicide. Both are complex discussions and we are actively having them. And it's a conversation that many countries need to face around vaccines due to conspiracy theories affecting uptake etc. And let's be realistic, Farage is pandering to that audience.

Darren Grimes is the latest new addition to the GB News team for 2022.

I'm not the biggest fan of Grimes; I hate that accent.

He's also the latest homosexual to join GB News - after Stephen Dixon, Dan Wootton, and Andrew Doyle (among others).

That means, of the 26 presenters / contributors to GB News, at least 5 of them (20%) are homosexual (I should note that one other minority presenter is openly gay on social media with his boyfriend, hence 'at least 5'). GB News has a higher diversity of LGBT compared to probably all other news channels.

Yet it gets called a homophobic channel?

It goes to show that LGBT isn't all about being left-wing, though those on the left love to speak for LGBT community as if they "own" the subject. There are far more Conservative LGBT voices than many would like us to believe.