Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Im not suggesting anything at all.. I was highlighting that the previous poster mentioned that the certs keep the unvaccinated people out of high transmission areas, therefore reducing hospital beds being taken up disproportionately by the unvacced .

My response was that the the restrictions being brought in are primarily effecting the younger generation even those vaccinated- they are very unlikely to take up hospital beds ... and these restrictions are mandated, not advised... yet our most vulnerable people in relation to Covid, have no mandated laws inplace to protect them.... the responsibility is left to the people themselves.. ie the visitors..

Would it not make sense to mandate antigen testing before visiting nursing homes, even if no symptoms, it offers some level of protection , better than thinking the vaccine / cert is a golden protection shield- cos its not, as we know now, unfortunately. We all wish it was...

So we end up asking why are the laws there... to protect the old? doesn't look like it..........to protect the young? ... doesn't make scientific sense as they are the least likely to be effected... mind wonders .. I dont think any age group or anyone should be banned from anything.. and it most certainly shouldnt be in written into any laws either ... 2 years later almost.. no way

The general health of the average person in the early 20th Century also needs to be considered,particularly in the immediate aftermath of the Great War,which was'nt called that for nothing.

Widespread starvation,malnitrition and famines,which never made the news,because the News media back then was not IMMEDIATE a Lá today,and the lack of the broad range of medicines which today are commonplace.

I suggest the Spanish Flu comparisons are moot,simply because the World and it's human occupants were not directly comparable in real times at all .

Right now,our largest societal problem is finding a means to shut down the almost constant flow of negative non-news coverage of a Variant which appears far less dangerous than it's supposedly lethal predecessors....In the current situation this sort of stuff simply does NOT fit the remit of a State Run Public Broadcaster .....https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2021/1215/1266798-coronavirus-explainer/ "How worried SHOULD we be about the Omicron variant ? "......C'mon outa that...get a life Dee Forbes and bring your Editorial Staff to heel before they end up gorging upon themselves !!!

Agree 100%.

Modern Day Europe appears to now be run by Samsonite,such is the never ending fixation with CASES !

This has never been about cases,the vast majority of which have NEVER even come close to threatening humanity's existence.

I am heartened that there is a slow awakening,which is leading to people,at least voicing their concerns,even if it is in hushed tones.

Sadly the Covid industry is now a big budget affair,and due to the Emergency Provisions of the 1947 Health Acts,huge payments have been made for goods & services NEVER subjected to the rigors of a functional Tendering Process which would have been ordinarly required,and which would,at least,allowed for some oversight as to where this (our) money is actually ending up.

The entire thing stinks to high heaven ! 😡

Ah no they exist alright.

Sadly

No real media coverage of the variety of "supports" to GP's provided by the HSE during Covid-19,or indeed the greater issue of just how Practices performed during the past 18 months.

You're right. Rich white men have never oppressed anyone and are renowned for their empathy and wide ranging compassion.

"I think we can all agree" the faux outrage is a bit cringe.

So now you're suggesting restricting everyone over 18? Under 18? Obviously not, but you've gone a bit sideways.

The restrictions are to protect the health system from being overrun so everyone (vaccinated and unvaccinated) can be treated when hospitalised by SARS-COV2.

Which group are most at risk of being hospitalised if we don't go by age? The unvaccinated. if we go by age, 60+, if we go by age and unvaccinated, likely 40+.

The vaccine pass keeps those most likely to be hospitalised (12x) away from socially risky locations.

If we don't go by COVID pass, what restriction are you in favor of instead? Or who do we stop treating? (still unanswered except for vague notions about EU control which leads me to think you think the restrictions are fake and should be completely dropped?)

Ah yeah.. the vaccination pass is to protect the unvaccinated because the vaccinated are all in a huddle passing covid between themselves.

When people write this crap, I wonder to myself do they actually truly believe it? Or do they just like the wind up!?

You want restrictions to keep going.

You actually think the ones we have in place are doing something?

It's a seasonal virus.

No restrictions and it goes away in the warmer months.

We have seen this before elsewhere

Hide under your bed.

If the vaccine is as good as you say then covid isn't a threat anymore.

You are acting like we don't have a vaccine.

I don't understand that one, unless it's been enforced by the home directly. OTOH, there can be some people in the home that refuse to be vaccinated (even though they are high risk) and the law would leave them homeless.

You're deflecting from his point because the logical conclusion makes you uncomfortable.

And you're fooling nobody.