What are your views on Multiculturalism in Ireland? - Threadbanned User List in OP

It never did @bubblypop. I travelled, others travelled even for non essential stuff like boob and hair jobs. They made things a bit awkward but the borders were not shut.

If those laws were properly enforced we wouldn't have so many arrests related to islamic terrorism.

Shure it wouldn't have anything to do with fact that diverse ethnic and religious groups were held in check by foreign colonialists or despotic regimes often through suppression of one group or another ?

Same goes for Balkans.

Complaining about others not knowing history is a bit rich coming from you.

Let me fill you in on something, the Christian brothers and other religious orders were still doing the old whipping long after 1960.

The EEC wasn't the game changer you make it out, education was a huge step forward in terms of opening minds on social issues.

And Ireland in the 60s had already started operating on a different economic model, trying to lure in FDI rather than Devs lunacy.

Yes the EEC brought in rules about labour and equality, brought a bigger market, brought huge changes in argiculture, but it didn't cause people to suddenly question the church on social issues.

And once again you don't seem to have any understanding of history.

I figure that either the laws are bad or the enforcement is bad or both. There is absolutely no justification to have so many of those people here so far out of their homeland that they can result in almost 20 arrests related to islamic terrorism and probably 10 times more that went undiscovered.

Each of them was either legally here (so a failure in the immigration system) or illegally (so a failure of the enforcement of the immigration laws).

Where is the pyramid again, the one that shows that people discredit things they don't like to have to argue against. Ad hominem.

Grahams Hierarchy of Disagreement? This one?

You’re barking so far up the wrong tree it’s depressing to witness tbh, but I’m not someone who kicks someone when they’re down.

This was your original point-

I said that countries that are lacking in diversity are generally unhealthy in respect of what sort of mediocre shite people are supposed to tolerate in ethics and behaviour.

And I pointed out -

Countries regarded as lacking in diversity are usually regarded as unhealthy by those in the minority, based upon their own standards, which shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone.

A counterpoint which is supported by the evidence you provided. That’s why it didn’t come as a surprise that generally speaking, the only people who care about diversity and inclusion and gender equality and all that good stuff, are lefties, who again, generally speaking, are in a minority. It’s why your evidence that many people who see increasing diversity think it’s a positive change is true, AND it’s also true that globally, people express less support for increased diversity.

It’s also true that the only people who are more in favour of increasing diversity are for the most part younger, better educated and left-leaning, than those people who just don’t care about diversity or think in those terms. The explanation for the discrepancy is pretty obvious - most people just don’t care for identity politics like people who’s politics are left-leaning do.

By way of example, I hired three people last month who have Masters in Data Analytics which, between myself and yourself, I really don’t care about. The reason I mention it is because they are indeed better educated than I am, younger than I am, and they’re certainly left-leaning. What matters to me more than any of that though, is the content of a person’s character, whether I could work with them and help them develop in their careers, or whether they’d wreck my bulb on a daily basis. The fact they also happened to be Indian was neither here nor there, it just wasn’t a criteria I consider important, whereas I am aware of people who for them the most important factor is the colour of a persons skin. They get all wrinkly-nosed if the person expresses a difference of religious belief, or speaks a language they don’t, or does indeed have different cultural values to theirs.

That’s what I mean when I say that lefties value diversity according to their own standards, and consider a lack of diversity according to their standards is unhealthy. They rarely care for authenticity or anyone who doesn’t share their perspective. They’re generally more concerned with optics and virtue signalling. It’s why companies which signal their virtues of diversity and inclusion attract people who find that sort of culture attractive, predominantly younger, better educated and left-leaning types, and that leads to issues for those companies like this -

I wouldn’t work for them, because the people there would wreck my bulb on a daily basis with their diversity and inclusion tokenism and virtue signalling. That’s not attacking anyone btw, it’s legitimate criticism of people who claim to value diversity and inclusion and all the rest of it - the data speaks for itself. What they really mean is a healthy society is one where everyone shares their perspective, as opposed to their perspective being shared only by a minority.

If everyone did share their perspective, society would still be homogeneous, which they consider unhealthy. If you can work that conundrum out, I’m all ears.

I bow to you. Clearly you are someone who is more informed and experienced in disagreement than me. Or maybe we both encountered it in our limited time in education, and you paused to study it longer, and adopt its techniques in practise, because I certainly see how you roll.

Your contention, which you are eager to have dissected : Countries regarded as lacking in diversity are usually regarded as unhealthy by those in the minority, based upon their own standards, which shouldn’t come as a surprise to anyone. This is glib, my little child could reproduce that conclusion tbh if you mean to retreat to the safe ground that societies without much contact with diversity can be infamous for the racism. Have a deep look at the politics of Hungary, Italy, Greece and India. There you will see frequent incumbency of right wing populists in their parliaments and governments. Only is a small number of countries do you see extremes in either direction, but overall most humans appear to want a little more diversity, and those countries who are facilitating it are not regretting it.

This just shows how broken the asylum system is.

Shocking, think it happened few months ago. Again its the fact a group of young men think the same, if it was a one off its bad enough but to have groups of men willing to partake in such a horrific crime is what is the most shocking to me.