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People who reluctantly got vaccinated, how has your life been affected?

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint



    So you got vaccinated and had less covid impact and it was a joke...

    Gas stuff that isn't it. Almost like what a vacine is designed to do.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    I know right. Like there's no vaccines on the market that need topping up. One and done forever. And they work straight out the gate to prevent you getting any of the disease what so ever.


    Vaccines aye. Woot..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    ah, i had zero protection from covid, as told by my GP and the nurse that administered the shot.

    the nurse reckoned it takes 10 week days for ANY protection from first dose, GP reckoned it was closer to two weeks.

    so yes, i was unvaccinated, and it was a joke. funny that isnt it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,116 ✭✭✭eggy81


    I feel like I haven’t been fully myself since I got the second jab in late July. I had serious fatigue for about 4 weeks afterwards and since then I’ve had tinnitus on and off ever since. I did get a horrible dose of something a few weeks ago which made things worse but apparently wasn’t Covid. Most likely coincidence to be fair but I do wonder at times have I had a reaction to it.

    Post edited by eggy81 on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,505 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    In fairness I got the ringing in the ears too but that went away after a few weeks. Haven't had it in months now. I was more concerned about feeling hungover for weeks on end really.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,109 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    This 100%. Had covid lately and didn't knock a stir out of me, and I would have a three underlying issues. Herself didn't want to get vaccinated, is never sick, and she had a horrific few days. She will never forget it. It has completely changed her outlook.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,111 ✭✭✭✭listermint


    No the funny part is you think the whole thing offers you no protection that's the funny part.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    It's quite mad how variable the virus can be. Mad and interesting. I've long reckoned, well since mid last year, that one reason is possible existing immunity within many in the community from a previous cold like "bug going around" likely another coronavirus(a percentage of all common colds are coronaviruses) that has a protective immunising effect on those who present as asymptomatic or extremely mild symptoms. A few studies seem to show up to a third of people have asymptomatic covid. I can't think of another virus that's so variable in effect that doesn't have an extant immunity in a population.

    On the effects of vaccines versus the virus itself. I had zero reaction to the vaccine, covid feck all but the loss of smell and taste(I do know one lad who had zero symptoms the first time, got a much worse bout the second time and after he was vaccinated too). However I'm one of those people who doesn't get the flu, or rather I'm asymptomatic(my dad was the same and only found out the other day his brother was similar). I tested positive to swine flu when it was on the go. No symptoms, but almost certainly gave it to someone else who was laid very low by it. Anyway a few years ago I decided to get the flu jab every winter not for myself but because of the risk of me wandering about happy out like typhoid feckin' Mary.

    Interestingly the flu vaccine I certainly noticed. Now most of the time I'd be meh for a couple of days, like the aforementioned slight hangover vibe, but very very mild. Though two years vaccine variants in particular really fecked me up(2016 and 2013). Like take to the bed fecked. Took about 24 hours to kick in and then ahh jaysus I'm only dyin' here. Full man flu feeling sorry for myself, aches, pains, headaches, fatigue, fever, the works. Actual flu? How ya doing lads, hop into my cells for a while, put your feet up, we're all friends here. I'll put the kettle on. Flu vaccine? WTF! Get out!! Like my body was giving me grief for being disloyal to the real deal. 😁

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    I took the jab for travel, nothing else, and was in a bad way after both jabs.

    I'll reluctantly take whatever jabs are needed to keep travelling, but I absolutely hate the idea of using the covid pass for services within Ireland, I would rather let places go bust than give them my money if they insist on checking passes.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    I've had it. I consider my own immune systems reaction better than what I received.

    We have already witnessed your medical expertise with your first bs comment.



  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭generic_throwaway




  • Registered Users Posts: 757 ✭✭✭generic_throwaway


    There is no 'medium' or 'long term' reaction to vaccines (unless you count not having severe COVID injuries as a reaction). That's not how vaccines work. Within a week or two, there isn't a trace of the vaccine left in your body.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Got it done in October.

    Got a 24 hour serious pain in the front of my head 5 days after. One evening until the next.

    Ever since my head hasnt felt right, mainly in that same area, mainly a feeling but if it moves to the opposite side its a mild pain(0.5 from 10 pain), it spends 99% on the the right side though.

    Might feel it 70% of the time.

    My GP reckoned the shots can cause nerve issues in your head that ease after 3/4 weeks... been two months now.

    Was it the jab, improper jabbing, unrelated and just a coincidence.. who knows but the timing has turned me off the 3rd one.

    Certainly won't be taking another and they can take their Covid pass in March(they've said as much already), forcing people to take two was bad enough, but continuously moving the goalposts(unvaccinated again soon)is just plain wrong.

    Anyone who wants to take the 3rd, should do so... but life needs to go on for the rest of us.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,346 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    They won't go bust when the majority have the covid pass. For those who don't, they can simply get tested as an alternative option to get the pass based on that. Don't want to do their part for the greater good of society, that's their prerogative, but I've no sympathy. If it wasn't for the rest of us doing our part, the country would be hugely locked down.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,668 ✭✭✭quokula


    Yeah I've used mine countless times too, I'd be wary of anywhere that didn't ask. Aside from putting customers more at risk of covid, when they show that kind of negligence on something so simple and visible imagine what kind of shortcuts they could be taking in the back with your food and kitchen hygiene.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Hah, you said the greater good... Funny man, stop watching Hot Fuzz :D



  • Moderators, Business & Finance Moderators Posts: 10,443 Mod ✭✭✭✭Jim2007


    There is nothing funny about it beyond your lack of understanding….

    This is a game of large numbers. Statistically a vaccinated population represents a lower threat to society as a whole and to the workforce from an economic point of view. Your individual rights will be respected to the point that your lifestyle choices are perceived to or actually impact everyone else, at that point you can fully expect your options will be limited. Patience is running out and we are approaching that point.

    if you find that amusing…..



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    I do find it funny, watching people drinking the Kool-Aid, buying the propaganda and using the greater good excuse to erode our rights. People die all the time, deal with it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Why are they pushing vaccinations and the COVID pass then? If not for public health, what?



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    Ass covering for their failures with the health system... make the vaccines truly optional then we can talk.

    With a country that is fully vaccinated all the covid passes do is add more hassle for people who are vaccinated, and marginalise those who are not vaccinated.

    If you can't see that the covid pass is a method of coercion & control, sold under the guise of "the greater good" and "protect the vulnerable", then there's no point talking. All that restrictions & passes do is add extra hassle for everyone.

    We all lose. New normal my hole.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,881 ✭✭✭John_Rambo


    This is so telling. The reluctant that have been vaccinated are having all sorts of side affects, yet everyone I know that willingly got the jab had none.



  • Registered Users Posts: 995 ✭✭✭iColdFusion


    I'm no doctor but it doesn't seem impossible that heart palpitations could just be their body having anxiety about getting a vaccine they feel deep down is going to be bad for them.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    If you can't see that the covid pass is a method of coercion & control, sold under the guise of "the greater good" and "protect the vulnerable", then there's no point talking.

    Who wants that control and why? What is their endgame? Keep the passes around forever and then?



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I'd say the same of a large percentage of long covid sufferers too.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    The government want the control, obviously. It's not like airlines, pubs, gyms & cinemas voluntarily introduced them.

    As for why and the end game?

    Well, that's getting into conspiracy theory territory... while initially it's to protect our shambles of a health service and force us to get the vaccine to try and buy it some breathing room, now that the can of worms has been opened it's obvious for one and all to see that we as a people will gladly sacrifice our freedom for safety, and the covid passes can be expanded to cover anything else they desire, once they can slap a public health / greater good sticker on it.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Yep, definitely CT territory at this point, best leave it there :) If you can enunciate your theory, there is a forum for it but probably best not to accuse people of drinking the kool-aid on here.



  • Registered Users Posts: 735 ✭✭✭foxsake



    I don't think the vaccines are *that* safe nor are they close to as effective as they were made out to be - If they didn't know how effective they were , how do they know how safe they are? sure probably not gonna cause immediate death but I'd be happier to wait a few years until i need it and the reward is worth the risk

    if that has me taking pcr tests so be it.

    I'd also be suspicious why recovered immunity is being ignored and the recovered are being hounded to get the vaccine - why does the pass last for 6 months

    only people I know who had a rough covid that were in hospital or had a chance of hospital were people who weren't in good nick. the people who I know got bad side effects from jab were in good nick who i know through mma and gym. I appear to be in good health so decided to take my chances with the chinese protein spikes over the bill gates magic juice .

    paid off

    bar the occasional encounter with a member of the moral high horse brigade I don't have any problems. Minor problem with gym recently but found a new spot and the gym lost a customer for life.

    Also a final point, I object to the way vaccines are forced on people. the coercion of barring people from society for choosing to not take it disgusts me . Despite doing no research into whether it worked or not. It doesn't. It's (as admitted by Leo) just a tool to twist peoples arms into taking it. No basis in fact or science. That force won't work on me and would actually make me doubt the sincerity of the people behind the vaccine rollouts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    Wow! I'm so thankful that we clearly have so many medical doctors in this thread to take time away from being frontline heroes and kindly share their expertise.

    I was also reluctant to get vaccinated and in the end went for the J&J. Had terrible reactions to it initially. Tunnel vision, faintness, very strong fever, proceeded by migraines and diarrhoea. Had 2-3 days of feeling like that.

    Then I also got a strange fluttering heartbeat described by other posters which I had never experienced before. That sensation persisted for another week. Wasn't sore, just felt like there was a slight but ever-present pressure in my chest. Went to the GP about it, referred to A&E (not because it was something serious but because I have no private healthcare), had bloods done and it turned out I had the dreaded myocarditis.

    Legitimately wasn't a big deal. Was told to take ibuprofen for a few days and it cleared up within days - it would've cleared up on it's own and had it not potentially been linked to the vaccine, my GP said they wouldn't have even sent me for bloods etc. as it's so common with viral infections. But the point remains that I got this from the vaccine and not from a natural infection. I know this for a fact because I took a blood test to see if I had C-19 antibodies (which I didn't) before deciding on whether or not to take the jab.

    So to those who are belittling posters and snidely implying that their experienced side-effects are psychosomatic - stop it with the fvcking gaslighting.

    Face up to the fact that, for some people at least, the cure has been worse than the disease would have ever been. If you feel uncomfortable that the "100% safe and effective" vaccine is nether 100% safe or 100% effective, then that is your problem.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,870 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    Similar to how 1000s of people with chronic lung diseases have no issue wearing masks, but cranks and contrarians all claim to suffocate when they put one on.



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,171 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    There's an element to that certainly, though all of my friends and family willingly got the jab and a fair number reported getting side effects. Mostly mild, hangover, fecked for 24 hours kinda thing. Though one got a very bad reaction, which involved his GP and outpatient hospital tests and point blank refused the second dose, or any others. Another couple were laid low by both and currently no way will they get a booster. There was only one who was very reluctant about them and I convinced them to get it(his missus is still a holdout. the only one I know). He had no side effects at all. One friend of mine got the Pfizer the day his age group came along and told me it was great, no side effects at all for him or his wife. After I got vaccinated he then admitted to me that it had fecked them both for a couple of days and he didn't tell me because he thought I might not get vaccinated if he had.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,505 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    This thread in a nutshell.


    Person A: I had these symptoms after the vaccine.


    Person B: No you didn't, all in your head you filthy anitvaxxer.


    You're all insane.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,727 ✭✭✭GerardKeating


    Also, "Pro-Vac" people will complain less about minor side effects, they see the biggger picture. No pain, no Gain" etc

    Maybe not "large" but certainly some. "Long COVID" seems quite like "Chronic Fatigue Syndrome", But i've never had either so not an expert.

    Certainly.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    bullshit. You're saying that now but if you were in a ICU I'm pretty sure you'd happily walk back on that statement.

    It just shows how much of a pussy people have become in the past 30-40 years.

    100 years ago people had to live through a pandemic and 2 world wars which killed millions.

    Today we have unprecedented levels of technology which means we can communicate face to face with people without leaving our house.

    We have medical marvels that have delivered vaccines within a year helping to save millions more from dying. But blah blah I can't go to the pub etc.., but wait..I actually can, I can go to the shop for food, we're not starving to death etc etc.

    People today are whining bitches.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    You might want to check your dates there Blazer.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,464 ✭✭✭✭Blazer


    Well 80-120 years.

    i know there was milder versions of the Spanish flu in the 40s and 50s etc but you’d swear people were locked and nailed into their houses with the way some people go on.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,811 ✭✭✭joe40


    I don't doubt your story or the severity but for every incidence of bad vaccine reactions, there are many multiple incidents of extreme reactions to covid up to and including death.

    I know of young healthy people end up in ICU with COVID.

    For me it is a fairly simple benefit risk analysis and the vaccine is clearly much safer. 90 plus percent of the population have been vaccinated, serious effects are minimal. Less than 15% of the population caught and the health system was brought to it's knees.

    If risks from vaccine were anyway comparable to risk from COVID those figures would be drastically different.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,471 ✭✭✭FintanMcluskey


    I'm fully vaccinated myself.

    But, for anyone under 35 ish, the side effects from the vaccine (nausea etc) is just as severe as the symptoms they are likely to face from Covid, if any at that age. Ie people under 35 of normal weight and no health conditions won't be at any risk from Covid

    My local pool and gym is empty since the covid certs were brought in last week for those places, regular young gym goers didn't seem to want (or likely need) the vaccine.

    There is also an interesting topic of professional footballers who have developed serious heart issues since the start of the year.

    There is no link either proven or disproven between the vaccine, (yet) but the experts have accepted their is a risk for younger males


    Additionally, the data show that the increased risk of myocarditis after vaccination is highest in younger males.”

    So, while I'm vaccinated, I completely understand why some aren't.

    In fact I'm shocked at the uptake level of the vaccine tbh

    It's also important to remember when talking about covid and vaccine risks, that you have to actually get covid to be included in the risk group.

    Only 1 in 10 people in Ireland have had a positive test in 2 years. So both the risk from Covid and the chances of getting it are small.

    But everyone has to get the vaccine.



  • Registered Users Posts: 43 johnboy1298


    The big pain I have with the vaccine is how having it seems to be almost no benefit, still stuck dealing with nonsense restrictions. I never felt I needed it & still have an issue with having to get it to live normally, lo and behold got it and now we're still at the same crap we were at this time last year.

    The vaccine or coronavirus arent issues for me at this stage it's idiot politicians trying to make out like they have a clue what they're doing and making peoples lives hard for what is continually transpiring to be no reason. That's the real problem in Ireland.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Had the vaccine, most unlikely to get a booster - especially because of the mRNA only option. It's fair to say that the vaccine is not having much effect in reducing transmission - especially post 10 weeks - means for me it is a total waste of time for anyone relatively fit and healthy U60. The vaccines and especially boosters would be better spent/administered in countries where there is low vaccine uptake.

    I had Covid in the very beginning and the vaccine repeated the exact same symptoms, albeit the time spent with symptoms was shorter after the vaccine.

    I get the feeling that the sudden rush to boost the sun, moon and stars is because omicron is going to give everyone natural immunity anyways, though that might more for the CT forum.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,700 ✭✭✭rovers_runner


    Palpitations at night, have always had a very low rhr and it's quite noticeable at times.

    Bouts of migraines, could go for a few days at a spell.


    Never had covid or symptoms.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,842 ✭✭✭✭Strumms





  • Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    CT stuff gets a lot of likes here so it's probably the place for it ha



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    It does seem to be proliferating again, every few weeks a bunch of posters disappear and new ones appear with the same talking points and post thanking :)



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    There's nothing CT about people being concerned about technology, in this case digital passports, being used in other ways. It's a perfectly rational view to hold. In a normal country with a proper media these kinds of things would be discussed and debated. Governments do bad things. Have throughout history. And in today's digital world it is perfectly rational to believe that there could be other kinds of digital passports for things such as one's carbon footprint (a certain number of credits per month, for example), or digital currencies (restrictions on what people can buy). In England the Bank of England called for digital cash to be programmed: Bank of England tells ministers to intervene on digital currency 'programming' (telegraph.co.uk). It's not CT stuff. Such discussions are taking place all around the world in banks, among bankers etc. I'm off topic here, so I won't labour the point, but it is wrong to say it's CT stuff. I don't say it will happen, but it's perfectly reasonable for people to be concerned about it and people should be allowed to discuss it without being told to go to that horrible CT thread. Technology has never been as advanced or sophisticated as it is today. Bad actors could easily take advantage of it. And I say could, not will. And no, not lizard people before that's lazily thrown out there.


    But anyway, back to the topic under discussion.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    The poster was saying that the plan was to make the population obey, that is a conspiracy with no basis in reality. Things happening are not a conspiracy, things happening for some ulterior motive you have no proof of is a conspiracy theory and that's where most of these conversations end up going.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Well, the population is being forced to obey. That's not a conspiracy theory. It's being forced to use vaccine passports, businesses are being forced to close every 5 minutes (5 o'clock closing time the latest), people are being forced to obey testing rules.


    And to link this to the topic of the thread, I would say that people who reluctantly got vaccinated find themselves facing even more restrictions.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    I think we'll see massive push back if they start deactivating people's covid certs if they haven't had a booster recently. Two years in now, I think 2022 will be a turning point. Interesting to see what happens

    Post edited by Markus Antonius on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,349 ✭✭✭Markus Antonius


    He was saying the government are rushing to take the credit for the work Omicron will do to give people natural immunity seeing as it spreads so fast and potentially is a milder strain. Sounds exactly like government behaviour. Kinda like how Shane Ross coached Katie Taylor to olympic gold.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,909 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    Kinda like how Shane Ross coached Katie Taylor to olympic gold.

    I'm sure, in your reality, this is what actually happened.

    You've spent over 350 pages talking on the CT forum but can't say who is gaining from it or why this is happening, all these events occurred during previous pandemics and will happen again in future pandemics, no taking control from people, it's called managing a health crisis.



  • Registered Users Posts: 620 ✭✭✭aidoh


    I'd hope so but I'm really not so confident.

    My better half was in Germany a few weeks ago. They already had boosters added to the digital cert over there, so to get into a pub/nightclub hassle-free you either had to be at least triple jabbed, or if you were 'only' double-jabbed you also had to show negative PCR test result.

    The negative PCR result makes more sense in terms of stopping spread than proof of vaccine anyway. But over there you need both unless boosted. You couldn't e.g. get in somewhere with a negative test if unvaxxed (which is counter-intuitive and I believe against the supposed purpose of the digital pass in the first place).

    Point is, everyone just goes along with it over there because at the end of the day, what else are they going to do?



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