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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    There's no logic to it at all. Any restrictions are simply a statement "we don't have any confidence in the vaccine" and with over 1m of the population "boosted" it seems they have no confidence in that either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 29,049 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    the truckers got very little support.

    most people support their right to protest but there protest aims don't have much support and aren't deliverable anyway.

    many of us like our drink but the fact is we don't need the pub for it, and this is shown in the fact that the pub has been declining for years.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Truckers got very little support? 😂

    Was your internet down this week?

    Their protest aims were to reduce the taxation on road fuels, which pretty much effects everyone outside the M50 (around 3.5 million of us)

    We might not need the pub but we prefer the pub, restrictions warts and all.

    Most people will mingle in the síbíns many of us built throughout the pandemic - looks like a very worthwhile investment now.

    But back on topic, do tell - how are these new restrictions gonna end Covid? Genuinely interested to hear...



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I will never vote for any politician who doesn't condemn this restriction if it's passed.

    It's only one vote but, apart from civil disobedience, it's the only thing I have to oppose it.

    I'm done with this **** show. Enough is enough. I'm not having another Christmas ruined.

    I don't even go to pubs anymore but the terror and fear these pricks have instilled in the young and eldest in my family is unforgivable.

    This is my daughter's first Christmas and probably my mother's last. I plan on making it their best and I hope you all do the same.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    I presume you are comfortably employed without any imminent threats to your job status, to be making such blasé remarks about other people’s right to earn a living.

    With that in mind, and in an act of solidarity, I suggest you put your money where your mouth is. Keep €350 of your weekly wage and donate the balance to a local charity of your choice.

    As you said, it’s just for a few weeks and it’s better to be overly cautious. If you expect other people to support themselves and their families on a restricted income for an indefinite period of time, then I expect you would be only too willing to do the same yourself.

    Or is it a case that you are only comfortable with offering up other people’s finances, futures and personal peace of mind as sacrifice for the ‘good of all’?

    Way too many people are comfortably WFH or working in secure jobs in this country, who are so well insulated from the absolutely horrendous conditions workers in some industries have been suffering under for the last two years. These people need a slap of reality.

    Its scary to think how many futures are being destroyed by these nonsensical restrictions. And it’s scarier to see people actively cheering it on and calling for more, and more, and more self sacrifice from others.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    The posters who are outraged at the thought of any new restrictions are the very same posters who would be outraged if patients were dying in overstretched hospitals.

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Well said, if NPHET and the government members put on €350 a week until this pox ended as an act of solidarity the pox would be over pretty sharpish. Nothing like a slap to the pocket to focus minds.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    What the **** are you talking about?

    People who are outraged at nonsensical restrictions would also be outraged at people dying in overstretched hospitals?

    Yes. Of course.

    The two aren't linked.

    Closing pubs and restaurants at 5pm, while schools and shops and airports remain open won't make a difference.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Thing is I don't work in hospitality or even the private sector, so yes I can go without the luxury of hospitality, but those who rely on that industry for their livelihoods cannot. That is what you fail to understand let alone the fact that restrictions are not going to stop this virus in the long term, it's not going away. Surely the restrictions advocates realise this now?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,425 ✭✭✭SafeSurfer


    So what is your point? That the restrictions don’t go far enough to make a difference?

    Multo autem ad rem magis pertinet quallis tibi vide aris quam allis



  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭dragonkin


    This pandemic has cast a long shadow there is no doubt about that and many people have been affected. But what everyone seems to forget is that there is a new strain spreading rapidly that needs to be contained. That is the priority at the moment. Whether I pay €350 a week or not is irrelevant.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Restrictions don't work, they kick the proverbial can down the road.

    Ever get a nail through your hand, would you ask your mate with the hammer to get it out quickly or bit by bit?



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321



    Am I right in thinking that you are a mod?

    And your proposed solution right now is to let Omicron rip?

    Which will likely mean triage, treatment rationing etc.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Omicron is a mild version of Covid19, if the ghastly measures you speak of are not to be taken now, then when? There's no getting away from the virus. It wins. The vaccines/preventative therapy should shield the vast majority from this weakened variant. Strike while the iron is hot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Also, what has being a mod got to do with the price of turnips? Are all mods supposed to be of a beehive mentality?



  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭dragonkin


    This strain is 27% of cases it was 1% a week ago, its severity is unknown, London hospitals are filling up. Now is most definitely not the time to be taking rash measures nor is the iron hot.



  • Registered Users Posts: 222 ✭✭franciscanpunk


    Another proud day to be irish!


    I will actively ignore everything the irish govt n nphet say but if a government who doesnt hit the panic button every chance they get like england or the usa say need a lockdown then ill know its required.

    If pubs are ok at 5, then they are ok at 12, seems like a way to close them without officialy closing them. I will be more disapointed if the govt tomo come out n say they now have to close at 8, we are great for standing up to nphet. make a real call.


    Imagine working tonight to get a pop up on your phone to say most likely 5pm closures your night shift you need to pay the bills is gone from next week, mortgage arrears lets be having ya. i dont work in the industry anymore but if i did i dont know how life would worth it amymore, the stress and anxiety caused by this **** would be too much



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Same happened with alpha and delta, what's your point? Milder version spreading faster equals similar pressure on hospitals as before because its less lethal.

    If the boosters are good it should stave off collapse of healthcare systems, right?



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321


    Danno is among: 'Science, Health & Environment Moderators'





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  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭dragonkin




  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    Pfizer have said at least 70% effectiveness. So this "we don't know" line is totally BS.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2 betober58


    thanks for sharing this info.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno




  • Registered Users Posts: 6,556 ✭✭✭Micky 32




  • Registered Users Posts: 736 ✭✭✭aziz


    I think for pubs to remain open the following restrictions should apply

    1 Mondays, lad’s only

    2 Tuesdays, ladies only

    3 Wednesdays, couples ( only aged between 40 and 60 only)

    4 Thursdays, gay, lesbian,transgender ( for a sense of perspective)

    5 fridays, farmers

    6 saturdays, people with a slight limp

    7 Sundays , people with the libra star sign


    Makes as much sense as what our “experts” are coming up with



  • Registered Users Posts: 385 ✭✭dragonkin


    He mentions that further down but it’s very early days.



  • Registered Users Posts: 167 ✭✭Mango321



    Source for 'milder version'?

    (Actual source, not the Daily Mail etc.)



  • Registered Users Posts: 476 ✭✭Ozvaldo


    Home for the Angelus at 6 then the national anthem at 11 lights off at 1115 might aswell bring back glenroe while their at it



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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    Schools ought to stay open but if your objective is to stop a surge in cases how can you not advise that they be closed? Education and socialisation is important at that age(it as at all ages but we have more tools to deal with this bullshit than younger people) but if the hospitals are squeezed the hospitals are squeezed. It seems there's a huge inconsistency in Holohan and co's recommendations.

    I don't agree that house parties are a substitute. All these announcements and restrictions act as a nudge to shame social behaviour. For my age group(late 20's) the fun is gone from socialising when they announce these restrictions, I barely even see my friends because everyone just retreats into themselves once these things are announced. We aren't 14, we aren't sitting around my gaff hanging out, the way we socialise is in bars and pubs. So in that sense these arbitrary closing times aren't there to make sense and I don't know why people act as if that's the point. The fun aspect of drinking is getting out of the house(especially nowadays with WFH) and feeling a different atmosphere, I have barely any interest or want to have some shite house party at 6pm on a Tuesday night in December.

    Awful just awful Another year slips away, another year where social connections have eroded; my friends were home from abroad and now I'm barely going to be able to spend time with them. I spend all most of time alone these days and was looking forward to Christmas f a bit of social rejuvenation and a chance to reconnect. This is just too **** much to take at this point. My sister was out tonight and they turned her away at the door because she didn't have an 'in date' ID on her, rules for the sake of rules.

    We have to remember that this is a worldwide phenomenon, it's not just Ireland where this is happening. Vaccines are clearly beneficial but some people have been made very rich for something that hasn't changed all that much. What was the point in mass vaccination programmes if all it takes is a new variant to undermine them? We go straight into lockdown anyway no matter what which has to be the worst consequence of Covid 19. Nobody will remember the disease but everyone will remember the actions taken to curb it.

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