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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,861 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I think his point was that there was/is nothing stopping you from not going out if you're worried about your relatives.

    You don't need to be restricted by Government regulations to do so, nor does anyone else.

    Or is it a case that if you can't/shouldn't do these things, no one else should be able to either?



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭Quags




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    It pretty much is. You can go out and exercise or go to someone's house I'd guess but that's about it. Everything else will be closed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Right so.

    Weekend of boozing for me. At least I know I'll be in an environment shorn of curtain-twitchers and pro-lockdown idiots.

    Wasn't really planning on doing much pub going Christmas week anyway, doing it this weekend out of spite more than anything.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 160 ✭✭noraos


    This is now just so heartbreaking..my moms partners is a taxi driver..they have been struggling as it is...

    This will be the nail in the coffin for him mentally and financially, he doesn't drink, but would radio off and pop into the local for his zero Guinness, to watch the match..they are in their later stage in life...have done all everyone has asked. Vaccine. Booster etc.. .they were hopeful of a 'good run' up to Christmas in the taxi. to be able to have a nice one this year..

    There will be more than just hospitality destroyed here..there are taxi drivers, hair dressers, barbers, suppliers, beauticians, even clothes shops for the new outfit for NYE etc..

    They are destroying families..livelihoods and personally I'm waiting a call from my mom later as I know she will be crying at this news...

    It will also frighten the life out of her and him, that the vaccines don't work...I will have to watch my mom revert back to the terrified person she was, last year...its not gonna be easy to watch..

    Sorry for getting personal, just wanted to show some people on here that laugh at these restrictions...they are not funny...not one bit..

    "To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all."-Oscar Wilde



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Oh if only it was that simple

    It’s a public health issue hence I am willing to accept the expert opinion of NPHET



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Have at it so - bit pointless but “go you”



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sure it is but it's also based off models and projections that have repeatedly been shown to be wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,112 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    Some middle ground like that is needed. Shutting an entire industry Christmas week and putting tens of thousands out of work would be highly politically unpalatable



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,327 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    'Expert' opinion of NPHET? The same lads whose number modelling has proved to be completely off the mark?

    Experts at destroying the economy and nation's morale more like.



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    im just a lay man with no medical training but the problem is with omicron is that it’s new and lots of unknowns at this stage hence the caution



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,004 ✭✭✭✭titan18


    You should need more than caution to put thousands of people out of work.

    Logic of we don't know but it could be bad shouldn't be acceptable when people's livelihoods are at stake.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The "experts" have been continually wrong over the last two years; why would that suddenly change? 😄

    Only precaution I'm taking is to order more drink for the house parties over Xmas. Lots of people coming, so don't want to run out. Happy Christmas 👍



  • Registered Users Posts: 15,608 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark




  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    We are all lay people but we can read simple numbers and we know for a fact that some of the assumptions being fed into these models are wrong yet they are still the only thing being used to make major decisions. That's not caution and would be called ineptitude in many other fields.



  • Registered Users Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    There are loads of unknowns, this is true, but our expert medical people do know it doesn't spread after 5pm



  • Registered Users Posts: 80 ✭✭Dr Fred




  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    I agree they have handled it badly but we have been like the mirror opposite. They have ploughed a head and been late to enforce restrictions etc. we have been very quick to enforce ours. They open very quickly we are very slow to open.

    One thing they don’t have is bodies lining up the streets. And that is down to a well run health services like the NHS and dare I say it the English fighting spirit like the stiff upper lip mentality. They are living with covid yes there are some extra deaths but this is a pandemic you can’t have a pandemic with out a certain amount of deaths.

    So I would say we have been equally bad at managing this. We don’t have as many deaths per population but we will have some very long hospitalvwaiting times and some very serious issues to deal with in the future which they might not have.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    The thing is, pubs are always quiet at the end of November and the start of December every year. Numbers socialising always ramp up from the weekend before Christmas. I can only think that that's the logic...

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    This is something that I worry about as a pro-vaxxer. If people see no immediate benefit to a vaccine then our booster campaign, along with any future ones will completely fall off a cliff



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Ask what u can do for your country not what ur country can do for u.well we collectively rolled up our sleeves,took the jabs and it’s for nothing.thanks Saint Tony



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Jesus, listening to Eamonn Ryan on morning Ireland, he's sounding very rough, cold 🤔 Flu or....... ,

    still managing to talk Shyte all the same 🙄 it's almost 9am, he'll need a nap shortly, absolute clown

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    There are many people like this in the country. It’s the fact that these people don’t get the air time on the radio and telly they are never found during any of the street polls etc. they have no opposition party to stand up for them. Mary Lou and Co are just sitting to one side letting the government shoot themselves in the foot so why bother questioning them.

    Again people been paid to be at home not financially effected at all. If more people were financially effected I bet people wouldn’t be laughing.



  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭foxsake


    because YOU are concerned you think it appropriate to enforce those needs/wants/fears on us all , pretty selfish tbh



  • Registered Users Posts: 43,028 ✭✭✭✭SEPT 23 1989


    Has Tony considered the pressure that will be put on the emergency services from amateurs who are not skilled in the fine art of early day drinking?

    I bet he hasn't



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,528 ✭✭✭copeyhagen


    get ready for the real Christmas panto now today...

    Joe Public:"did ya hear the pubs are closing at 5pm?"

    Govt:"Nphet said close hospitality at 5pm, we think thats too strict, people need to enjoy their Xmas. We will close at 8pm"

    Joe Public:"phew,thank god, 5pm would have been horrible, could be worse."

    like that wasnt their plan from the start... rinse and repeat, over and over.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,861 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Pat Kenny is on his masks hobbyhorse again - "anything on masks?" he asks hopefully to the guest reviewing the recommendations.

    Between him and those stupid Government/HSE ads every 20 mins with someone gleefully recounting the night out missed to the receiver and how great it was they weren't there, or telling everyone to RSVP a list of hyper-cautious questions to themselves I can feel my blood pressure rising already.

    Over to Spotify it is then.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    How about you take personal responsibility for your actions? If you have vulnerable people in your life, do what you think needs to be done to keep them safe and let everyone else make decisions for themselves. This attempt by NPHET to micro manage everyone is getting ridiculous at this stage.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭foxsake


    this is pathetic sh1t. still cowering in fear of this illness which is mild on a population basis , the new variant is even milder .

    a country run by sh1tehawks or (which I believe) they are afraid of the sh1tty health care being exposed and are covering themselves,

    instead of allowing people make their own informed choice and god forbid allow some risk in their lives. because of the fear of some, we all must suffer.

    and to see some people champion this makes me wonder about their mental fragility and ability to survive day to day living.



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