Climate Bolloxolgy.

That's where idealism falls with its fatal flaws

Not disputing that at all. I just said the VAT reduction won't filter to the end user while VAT increases will. We introduced carbon tax to move from fossil fuels, yet fossil fuels are being used more than ever. Often times the carbon tax is a paycut by stealth as no alternative exists. Grants on EVs seen the prices rise. Consumer didn't benefit. It was a way of indirectly subsidising the manufacturer.

Absolutely correct about the motivation behind the protests of industries that no alternative power source and have no capacity to reduce usage.

But the narrative about EV's suiting any high proportion of the population is way out.

Only a very small percentage of our population live somewhere that has a driveway or garage to facilitate a plug in, leads across driveways, 2/3/4 cars in the driveway requiring charging.

How many housing estates, town houses, apartments could facilitate charging for not only 1 car in the household, not to mind several..

Someone might be able to answer some costs questions..

Can a 24kw battery be recharged with just 24kw of electric power? Could it take more?

24kw x 20c/kw = €4.80 to drive 100 miles.

Similar diesel cost for 100 miles would be €13.89

However as milage capacity deteriorates in the EV, does the cost increase.

Looking at a really nice second hand Leaf...Max battery capacity now at 45 miles

Is it costing now €4.80 for the 45 miles, (diesel equivalent €6.25) or because the battery gives less output, does it only take in less charge, costing less iykwim...

Details around this, as well as the price of a replacement battery are impossible to get from anyone in the know..

On the above leaf...its 7 years old, almost at the end of its functional life, but its diesel equivalent has another 10/12 years of service to give..

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Ongoing advance in nuclear power via fusion reactors etc. will pass out all that greenwash baloney soon enough

Actually it is only in very recent times that fusion has been looked at seriously - prior to then nuclear energy was just an offshoot from weapons development based on fission

I don't think hydrogen will be used for shipping. If you just stored it as a compressed gas, The volume of the ship required to store it's fuel would be 4-7 times that for fuel oil. Can you imagine the outcome of a collision rupturing a large tank of H2 that's at 700 bar pressure? A greater density can be had if you cryogenically cool the H2 to -253°C, but the cost, complexity and bulk of the refrigeration plant necessary to maintain your fuel is just ridiculous. Any failure in that plant and you either have to vent your H2 to atmosphere or it goes boom from rising pressure.

I nearly fell off my sofa when I saw a photo of the worlds first liquid H2 transport ship:

All of that infrastructure required to transport a mere 75 tons.

Personally, I think you can forget about liquid hydrogen to power ships that cross oceans.

thats why alot of this stuff won't be happening, electric cars will be about the height of it but much slower uptake than the governments and the media think. I think it is slowly dawning on alot of people what a wonderful fuel source petroleum is and how it will be almost impossible to replace. Our whole technological and industrial base is centred on this one fuel. People thinking we can leave it in the ground as a "stranded asset" are deluded and frankly technologically ignorant

To jump from petroleum to hydrogen is just too difficult and dangerous, there are no Steve Jobs or Jeff Bezos doing this because it is too difficult , too risky, and no consumer pay off, thats why most of our technological advancement is in the area of consumer electronics, the electric car is simply the biggest consumer electronics gadget now

Interesting.

Hard to have the finance to invest but every income would help

Got a price a few years back, was it something like 7-10k per bay, can’t remember if batteries were included