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"I had a love affair with Nina, in the back of my Cortina"....hmm

A bit before my time. I do know the big hit though, probably because it was mind numbingly repetitive. The ancient bards had it all worked out back in the day..... transfer it to a poem or a song and your king will be remembered forever. Let me see how the big hit went.......

Hit me with your rhythm stick,

Hit me, hit me,

Das ist gut! C`èst fantastique!

Hit me, hit me, hit me,

Hit me with your rhythm stick,

It`s nice to be a lunatic,

Hit me, hit me, hit me!

Jeez........there is even a bit of French in there. Talk about "dark humour" ?.....sure us muck savages don`t get it at all. Oh....and for the youngsters amongst us. The artist`s first name was Ian.....and his band? They were "The Blockheads". Actually, his second name was Dury so for those of us of a certain persuasion, we might be able to re-insert that word at some future date and make it relevant.

I don't think any of them are "reliable witnesses". Alfie lied about living in Dreenane before Sophie. Leo is a convicted cannabis grower. Yvonne Ungerer, well either she got the time Sophie left her house wrong on Sunday (5.45 p.m.) or the pub visit or the postman delivering at 6 is wrong. At least one of those timings is wrong.

I can see you're no thickie

It's not recovered memory. It's invented memory. He as a third party remembers it more clearly than Alfie... He remembers the satchel, a year later that stayed in his memory? Unless he's going to claim a photographic memory, that simply isn't credible.

Anyone who believes this fiction needs to dial up their baloney detectors.

There is no real evidence Bailey knew Sophie. None. Even if you accept this story, which I don't, it's not evidence he knew her.

Isn't it amazing how the supposedly intelligent objective journalist Nick Foster has come to the conclusions he has? Just consider how he'd be thought of if he'd seen the great flaws in the investigation and decided there was nothing short of a miscarriage of justice. He'd be nothing more than another English bast*rd like Bailey. Or if he was like a lot of supposedly rational people and had an open mind about the case. No one would want to hear what he had to say.

But he's more Guard than the Guard themselves and even better he's English, meaning he can't be accused of being anti English. He's a Godsend. Like so many others Marie Farrell, Alfie Lyons, Leo Bolger, Helen Callanan etc. You couldn't make it up. Or could you?

From the Limerick Post yesterday;

"SOLICITORS have indicated that they will seek to move the trial of four gardaí and a retired Superintendent, charged as part of a major corruption investigation, out of Limerick.

Limerick Circuit Court heard that legal representatives for the five accused have been sent correspondence from the DPP’s legal team seeking to transfer the trial to Dublin."

The most interesting part of this is that a very senior retired officer will be tried. That must be sending a message out to people that you are not safe in retirement if you have questions to answer, no matter how senior you are.

No photographs exist of this man, it seems. It would have been interesting to see what he looked like given his reputed extreme handsomeness.

He was a detective garda (plain clothed) so Doc Martin boots would not be part of his regular attire, if on duty.

Hey everyone, I've been following this thread and the whole case with alot of interest in the last few months. I read Nick Fosters book and I found it brilliant.

The recent article in this thread about the Limerick solictors is a load of bollocks. I thought this was an amazing find, then I went researching and its actually unrelated to anything. Some spoofer who should banned. link for ref;

www.limerickpost.ie/2021/12/16/move-to-transfer-garda-corruption-trial-out-of-limerick

A thought that always crossed my mind was this. The whole case has alot of confusion yes. In interviews bailey always does genuinely come across as verg genuine.. but only on his narrative,if he controls the flow of the conversation. Look back any interview and you'll see. He is verg comfortable telling his story or answering questions that have already been answered in the case, anything else and he'll become uncomfortable (understandable in a way but...) he loves rehashing the same answers on the case and nothing else. listen to the recent podcast with the craic with Alan O Sullivan in Cork(I think thats his name)and you'll see what I mean. bad interviewer and bailey keeps bringing him back to his control.

One thing I always wondered was this. Bailey comes across as a caring, reasonable, lovely man in interviews. He is told to be a crazy psychotic man by locals and rumours... Remember that scene in Jim Sheridans doc when he pulls he tooth out with a pliers on the camera... I'm sorry, I know it doesn't mean he's guilty or crazy or anything.. but that must have been a bit of evidence to non locals that the guy can be a lose cannon on alcohol? Correct me if I'm wrong, but that is not normal.

Yeah, I agree. I thought he was innocent originally, but not so much anymore.

But I understand why people would think his is or isn't - Not being normal (what even is normal? haha) doesn't mean anything really, it doesn't mean he's a murderer. Even his violent past doesn't convince me. Its something else, his personality and how he represents himself.. I know everyone is different, handles grief differently etc... but there is something about him tbh... I dunno, you'd think if he eas innocent he'd be much more vocal about the "corruption" and stop telling the story and go into depth about it (on his terms) because an innocent person would want this to end and not for the story to keep rolling?

I dunno, just my thoughts - dont attack me haha

I agree though, Iwould love to see what a body language experts thinks aswel.

Can we get these personality experts to look at the guy who drew this and the woman who was wanting to do a documentary with him?

Well it could be seen as humourously saying that if you want the subject of a life drawing not to move, something artists get very annoyed about

Yes. It is the narrative that everyone else was squeaky clean and there was one bad hombre in West Cork I find annoying. Imagine if that drawing was done by Bailey. It would be everywhere as proof positive he was a misogynistic psycho. But it was done by the the guy Sophie was visiting on the Sunday so it is "art" and somehow the Holocaust is dragged in to excuse him.

Tomi Ungerer was fairly highly esteemed. He would have used something like this image to represent a person. it's easy see why

There would appear to be many avenues the cold case investigation being mooted (or threatened?) can go down where some Guard admits to doing something they shouldn't have. Something enough to see Bailey almost exonerated but not enough to do much else. It would be much better if something like that came out and meant a cold case review wasn't warranted. That's what the state needs.

In Bailey's action against the Guards, Detective Fitzgerald admitted writing out one of Marie Farrell's statements from memory about a week after she'd been interviewed. He wrote it in the first person as that made it 'easier' for him.