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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Don’t think this isn’t all pre-planned by the government leaking the latest restrictions with NPhet. They don’t want to shock people completely.

    Nphet recommended 5PM but government will announce 7PM making it look like they are doing us a favour so less backlash towards them.



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Nah, Leo and MM have already agreed 9pm (in my humble opinion of course)

    They'll spin it, we're not closing sectors (whilst biting lips) avoid any supports , feck off on their extended Christmas break, blame big bad NPHET and not give a flying Toss

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 17,942 ✭✭✭✭Busi_Girl08


    I'll put it this way. I'm due to be getting married in late March 2023, thinking we'd be over the worst of this shite by then. Now the niggle of worry is starting to kick in.



  • Registered Users Posts: 537 ✭✭✭B2021M


    I hope MM brought his Seamus Heaney book to Brussels as some relevant quotes will be needed later. I suppose he could always ring Biden for one if it came to it.



  • Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,677 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    The best thing we could all do is not get the booster shots as way of protest - we were told we`d vaccinate our way out of this earlier this year.


    Here we are Christmas 2021 and probably going to be in the same situation as Christmas 2020....whats the point in having us all boosted when being fully vaccinated means f**k all and when an un-elected individual on a power trip can over rule the government in a single letter to the Minister for Health.


    Even if we all get boosters despite what they are telling us we could be in some form of restrictions for the first six months of next year.


    There really is no point in keep sticking vaccines in our arms when there is no end in sight.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Its absurd. It really is.

    I wouldn't have the foggiest idea of how to arrange a protest or any of that jazz, but surely to **** someone more versed will be organising something. Most have stayed away from protests for fear of being branded some sort of anti-vax, far-right, gemma o'doherty supporting loon, but I think the tide is turning with regards to peoples patience.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,461 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    It also puts a pin in their hopes of reelection, all these measures do is rile people up who will then look for an alternative.

    Does it really though, given the election is likely over three years away, and all major parties have been largely on the same page when it comes to managing the pandemic?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Michael Martin has accepted all prior restrictions from NPHET.

    Why would he diverge from their advice now, especially when NPHET is using phrases such as "exceptionally concerned" about Omicron. **

    9pm would be too risky, NPHET will argue, because it would increase the probability of house parties etc. Martin will fold his hand, and head straight to that damn podium to patronise and condescend to us once more about how great we are as a people, about how we can get through this together by summoning the spirit of Saint Patrick, and how better times are ahead.

    ** For anyone interested in facts and optimism and real-life and that kind of thing; yesterday was the lowest number of hospitalisations since mid-October.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,274 ✭✭✭emo72


    I'm due a booster tomorrow. Why am I getting it?



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Restricitng access or closing early in most country pubs is ridiculous where they might have 15 regulars is just plain and utter stupid.

    Id actually rather they brought in 20KM travel limit than this opening and closing shite in your own locality.

    NPHET think every pub is a night club or something.

    Just limit the pubs to seating capacity only.



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  • 5 o’clock closure effectively means lunchtime trade only. That would be an absolute killer, and as for “events”, only the afters of funerals could be catered for; that is if any numbers are actually to be allowed attend, which looks to be a likely restriction too.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    It is another issue to add along with housing and healthcare over all.

    All other parties can say what they want, but they aren't in power so that gives them a little edge. They don't have a say in these restrictions, they can say and preach that from up top.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    I disagree with the new restrictions but I do understand their reasoning (Omicron cases are rising and will outpace the delta decline very soon and impact hospitalisations) even if I disagree.

    Do you not see the same thing?

    Talking about cult followers (I have seen very few on here agree with what's being proposed) doesn't really add much to the conversation as you're not actually creating a coherent argument other than "outrage" (which a lot of other posters on here manifest at the drop of a hat anyway).



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭Quags


    Major reaction to this news which is good to see, people may be finally seen what a shitshow NPHET are making of this but I think the Gov will play the uno reverse and keep pubs open till 8/9pm so save some face. But apart from the pub news the likes of the pictures/theatres closing at 5 also is a disgrace, from when I last read the data there was no major outbreaks from any of this sector



  • Registered Users Posts: 726 ✭✭✭foxsake


    this is interesting cos it really proves the vaccine pass was nothing more than a sham designed to coeirce people into getting the vaccine.

    no basis in reality .Some knew this but we are seeing the manifestation of that policy now.

    so those who got the jab for the finer things in life , like the kids who took it for the niteclubs - lied too and played.

    Don't get mad at me - Get angry at the government and the opposition , get out there protesting and hammering your TDs with emails.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,479 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    You queued up as instructed and put masks on primary school children.

    Masks on little children. You know its wrong and you did it anyway.

    You enabled all of this.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    I thought gov went against nphet last Christmas?



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,504 ✭✭✭shockframe




  • Registered Users Posts: 29,073 ✭✭✭✭end of the road


    my internet is and was fine, even the trucking lobby didn't support the protest.

    anyway, nobody has said restrictions will end covid, that is just you perpetuating what you wanted to have been said from something that never was because you are refusing to deal with the reality that restrictions are about limiting spreadability/virus spread.

    ticking a box on a form does not make you of a religion.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭ebbsy




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  • Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    Listen I unlike you I guess took into consideration what the kids wanted to do. My kids are happy to be doing what their friends are doing so no harm done they didn’t want to be sitting as the only ones in their class. And who said they were little kids primary goes right up to 6th class remember.

    I wasn’t going to be the type that forces something onto the kids if they didn’t want it. But then I’d say your probably the type that instructs their kid not to wear the mask and makes them out to be the different one in school just because your sticking it to the man whatever floats your boat.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,810 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    I got mine last week, if I was due to get it tomorrow I wouldn't turn up.

    I will never take another booster after this.

    But don't let me talk you out of it, please do what you think is best for you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    This doesn't show that at all, the unvaccinated will still be more restricted whatever extra restrictions come in because (and this is always true) they put a disproportionate amount of pressure on the health system compared to the vaccinated.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,461 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    I don't think SF will make a major issue in the GE campaign, assuming it's still a few years away; their record is not sufficiently different from the government's to make it a big vote winner, and voters are interested in what you can do for them today and tomorrow.



  • Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭Quags


    If you want to get it and feel it protects you then do it.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,464 ✭✭✭MOH


    Source for "impact hospitalisations"?

    Covid cases in acute hospitals and ICU have been steadily dropping for weeks, despite the introduction of Omicron.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    And NPHET claimed victory, hence why Martin will be more than reluctant to disobey their advice this time around.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,697 ✭✭✭Allinall


    I got mine yesterday.

    Hopefully it will stop me getting too ill if I catch Covid.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭ebbsy




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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    The best thing we could all do is not get the booster shots as way of protest

    That will really show them.



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