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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #24752
    namloc1980
    Registered Users Posts: 18,244 ✭✭✭✭namloc1980


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336471#Comment_118336471

    Hospitalisations are dropping dramatically now - down 40% in the last few weeks and yet we're ramping up the restrictions.



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    #24753
    robfowler78
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336565#Comment_118336565

    certainly starting to look that way



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    #24754
    Luxembourgo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    Imagine where we would be without masks.....



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    #24755
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336471#Comment_118336471

    If they didn't drop all restrictions during the Summer, what makes you think they're going to drop them come the Spring?

    As for your question, the vaxx passport will be kept going unless there's huge nationwide resistance/non-compliance. Without saying too much (I respect the mods gotta mod), the vaxx passport will bridge into the new system and digital euro (as aforementioned by Christine Lagard, President of the European Central Bank.)

    To prove my point, let's make a small bet of, say.. 1k? Vaccine passports, "green pass" etc gone by Summer next year and the money is yours. When they're not, I'll take your 1k and give it to charity. We can do it over blockchain for transparency. Deal?



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    #24756
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,677 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336287#Comment_118336287

    Its a valid form of protest.

    1. They told us we`d be out of this if we had high vaccination levels.
    2. They said they wouldnt close anything they had reopened.
    3. They want to have 1.5 million boosters administered before Xmas.

    Yet with the stroke of a pen Nphet can put in more restrictions.

    So why bother with getting boosters if we as a population are getting **** all benefit from it.

    I may as well be sitting at home non boosted until covid runs it course.

    BTW -Im fully vaccinated so I dont disagree with vaccines.



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    #24757
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336640#Comment_118336640

    They didn't drop them in Summer because they were still vaccinating, they should have opened in August but they didn't because they didn't want to have to rollback restrictions. The current changes are happening because of the rapid growth of omicron and the assumption that it is as severe but has a higher transmission rate, if it's less severe, then hospitalisations should keep on dropping and restrictions dropped along with them.

    I don't believe they're necessary as I'm hopeful that Omicron is a lot less severe.

    But that's the data being worked off.

    I'd do 50 for a bet, whichever charity, can post the donation, passes gone internally by July 31st (they'll still be needed for international travel). I'm betting against there being any new significant variants between now and then of course :)



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    #24758
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 0 ✭ [Deleted User]


    It's one of the most transparent stunts these chancers have played yet.

    • Leak the news of a nonsensical 5pm close
    • Let the people get annoyed
    • announce later that you have listened to advice and will agree to keep pubs and the entertainment industry open until 10pm
    • caveat is that you need your vaccine cert updated with a booster...




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    #24759
    timmyntc
    Registered Users Posts: 7,048 ✭✭✭timmyntc


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336686#Comment_118336686

    50 for a charity of your choice if vaccine passports/restrictions on unvaccinated are gone internally in Ireland by July 31st 2022



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    #24760
    DLink
    Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336674#Comment_118336674

    We need to hit their statistics, it's the only message we can send seeing as we won't take to the streets.

    I'm fully vaxxed, but I'm not going to take the booster, not now anyway. I only got vaxxed for travel, but given that the rules around travel are changing to vaxxed AND test, or just test, why bother with the vaccine when we're getting back to requiring a test no matter what your vaccination status is?

    A few weeks back a friend was laughing his hole off at the non-vaccinated not being allowed into pubs, was delighted to have the pass and said "fúck them all".... Very temped to text him and ask him how the pass is working out for him now.....



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    #24761
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336471#Comment_118336471

    The way I see it panning out, the carrot for younger people to get vaccinated was to get into pubs/restaurants. If pubs are closed during January and February, what will be the carrot for U30s to get the booster? Maybe keeping them closed and saying get the booster and we'll reopen the pubs will be that carrot.



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    #24762
    Quags
    Registered Users Posts: 2,081 ✭✭✭Quags


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336688#Comment_118336688

    I will be shocked if this does not happen. MM & LV will think they have somehow saved xmas for people



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    #24763
    robfowler78
    Registered Users Posts: 928 ✭✭✭robfowler78


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336674#Comment_118336674

    It’s the lack of media or opposition calling them out also



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    #24764
    Vicxas
    Registered Users Posts: 15,365 ✭✭✭✭Vicxas


    https://twitter.com/LeoVaradkar/status/1471800732953288707?s=20


    This mealy mouthed shite would make you angrier, he doesnt give 2 **** about the hospitality sector



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    #24765
    Kason Ambitious Underpass
    Posts: 0 ✭ Kason Ambitious Underpass


    Denmark is one place they would be modelling on. Most recent case numbers are over 8000 in a day.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/world/europe/omicron-surge-in-denmark-and-uk-sends-warning-to-ireland-and-rest-of-europe-1.4754994




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    #24766
    astrofool
    Registered Users Posts: 16,655 ✭✭✭✭astrofool


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336717#Comment_118336717

    Honestly, the booster is probably coming too soon for the under 50's, though we'll see what 2nd dose vs. 3rd dose data looks like for Omicron, if there is a revised vaccine for March/April for Omicron (and it hasn't burned out anyway), I don't see uptake being that high in younger age groups, we've been "off-cycle" with a lot of these, a booster program in September/October along with Flu would probably be most effective, trying to get another jab done in Spring/Summer makes it very messy and antibodies will be waning just as you want them plentiful.



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    #24767
    Kason Ambitious Underpass
    Posts: 0 ✭ Kason Ambitious Underpass


    The leaking, of course, is to test public reaction. See if and what they can get away with imposing without civil unrest.



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    #24768
    mightyreds
    Registered Users Posts: 2,799 ✭✭✭mightyreds


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336728#Comment_118336728

    3.5k cases roughly with 28 admitted to hospital whats it like at the minute here?



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    #24769
    M_Murphy57
    Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57


    Multiple reports that these restrictions are needed so "schools can open". Yet again these pricks are threatening us that, essentially, if we insist on drinking alcohol they will remove our childrens education!


    Fuck every single last one of these pricks.



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    #24770
    _Kaiser_
    Registered Users Posts: 28,861 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336760#Comment_118336760

    And the reason they're saying that is because it's the one thing Micheal Martin committed to when he took office (reopen the schools and keep them open).

    He's fixated on it as it's about the only thing he's achieved - aside from his primary and overriding goal of becoming Taoiseach that is.



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    #24771
    the kelt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    You have to ask the question

    Whats the only scenario where NPHET will be happy or even content?

    Its basically looking now like its zero COVID is their policy but thats not possible for our island so restriction forever really until COVID disappears.

    That literally looks like the plan cos theres no semblance of any other plan



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    #24772
    Downlinz
    Registered Users Posts: 1,528 ✭✭✭Downlinz


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336781#Comment_118336781

    It's complete insanity that we've reached an extent of shutting down hospitality, sport and travel in order to maintain children's ability to make a few christmas cards and watch Home Alone in those pointless end of term days where the teacher is just running down the clock most of the time.

    The lack of desire among parents for kids to attend those days is so great that most principals reckon less than half will even attend next week. Yet Micheál still insists on opening them, it's crazy.



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    #24773
    StevenToast
    Registered Users Posts: 3,578 ✭✭✭StevenToast


    Classic good cop, bad cop play by the govt...

    Bad cop - NPHET (close at 5pm)

    Good cop - Govt (close at 9/10pm)


    Its fcuking pathetic....

    We will have the state mouthpiece RTE and scare byrne getting onto publicans etc about how relieved they must be now that the govt has saved them...

    Psychological bollexology....

    "Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining." - Fletcher



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    #24774
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users Posts: 15,958 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Resistance is futile. Our Christmas is not happening now, was to be three households (incl us) and two gangs positive today. Isolate for 10 days.

    Anyone want to buy a monster turkey lol.

    As long as they are alright and don't get too sick, that's all that matters. All double jabbed but not boosted yet in the sick contingent.



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    #24775
    Tony Manero
    Registered Users Posts: 61 ✭✭Tony Manero


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118335236#Comment_118335236

    Psycho by name, psycho by nature? It would seem so.



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    #24776
    MilkyToast
    Registered Users Posts: 849 ✭✭✭MilkyToast


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336829#Comment_118336829

    You are gonna be eating turkey curry for months.

    “Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." ~C.S. Lewis



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    #24777
    bokale
    Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336829#Comment_118336829

    Yeah reading anecdotal stories from London and seems hard not to end up with it if you're anywhere near it.



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    #24778
    Richard Hillman
    Registered Users Posts: 12,033 ✭✭✭✭Richard Hillman


    Seems like MM is getting pushback from his own party on it. I do find it amazing how there hasn't been a leadership challenge



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    #24779
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336857#Comment_118336857

    London cases are kicking off, 23k cases yesterday, over 50% of them are omicron, 9k was the average last week for comparison, hospitalisations increasing slightly also



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    #24780
    freshpopcorn
    Registered Users Posts: 30,545 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118336890#Comment_118336890

    I don't really know because I don't believe a lot of the FF TD's would be one's for buying into these restrictions.

    However they might be hoping to keep their seat next time around by telling the pensioner's they kept them safe because its the only way I can see people voting for them.



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    #24781
    Penfailed
    Registered Users Posts: 7,587 ✭✭✭Penfailed


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118335692#Comment_118335692

    Ha! Nah, you replied at 1am...I was catching zeds.

    Gigs '24 - Ben Ottewell and Ian Ball (Gomez), The Jesus & Mary Chain, The Smashing Pumpkins/Weezer, Pearl Jam, Green Day, Stendhal Festival, Forest Fest, Electric Picnic, Ride, PJ Harvey, Pixies, Public Service Broadcasting, Therapy?, IDLES(x2)



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