Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Had to laugh today. I went to dunnes in the Ilac centre (the new fancy one). They have inside the store a baxter and greene fenced area (fenced with piled up tubs of quality street) with a couple of tables inside. The sign just outside this area read "proof of immunity required". Ditch those muzzle, the ultimate protection is wearing a tub of Celebrations around you. I should have also inquired on how to obtain immunity 🤔

You can simplify it down to a case of not getting a pint if you need for your own rational logic. But it isn't about not getting a pint, its about 18months later, 3+ vaccinations later, and the government are still interfering with peoples lives, there is no end in sight, shrinking violets are placed on tv update shows every night, none of them with a pair of balls, its like the government/media (difficult to separate them at the moment) put a speaker forward every night to try and explain why no progress has actually been made.

They should come out and say they haven't a clue what they are doing, and that vaccines and restrictions will be forever in place to some degree, at least be honest instead of manipulating data and presenting some sort of sideshow to save face.

South Africa is a much younger country also less sedentary than Ireland/UK so it’s hard to compare the two. We just don’t know yet what this will do in Europe.

Saffers have a world leading infectious disease infrastructure, due to the amount of TB, HIV and other diseases doing the rounds there.

Based on the shoddy modelling that came out of ICL earlier in the pandemic, I would side with the saffers for now

Could you link to the research itself? Article is behind a paywall

Will you have to go onto the PUP?

By the way Covid deaths per capita in the north are 7 times higher than the south. Looks like you’ve shot yourself in the foot with that example pardon the pun.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/why-is-north-s-covid-death-rate-almost-seven-times-higher-than-that-of-republic-1.4655957

Yeah I agree it should be a strict lockdown for a few weeks, 5pm closing of hospitality isn’t enough.

Sure!

Authoritarianism is bad.

Principles are important.

The banality of evil. I would call what is happening with Covid-19 and the collateral damage that people are blindly accepting as the banality of good. There is no easy way out of this and we are all biased in some way but if history has thought me anything it's that if the herd are going one way, your best doing the opposite. Nazis, theocracy in Ireland, treatment of minorities, systemic racism in the United States, it's always passivity that enables these forces to exert themselves.

It's clear that Holohan and medical professionals around the world have lost the run of themselves. They are in an AMAZING situation because they can't be wrong, people will die of Covid no matter what. It's really first order thinking though to take the approach that suppressing the virus to the detriment of all else is the right way to go.

What time is the jellyfish going on RTÉ to gaslight the country?

I mean we seem to be very dismissive of South African medical advice at this time... Would our leaders be as dismissive if the SA officials said Omicron was 10X deadlier than Delta?

Public Transport is not restricted, big vector there I think.

Shopping is not restricted either. Neither are schools, dental procedures etc., the list goes on.

Of all of them, it seems that pubs and social life are perceived by Government as a huge vector for infection, but nothing else is.

I often don't understand the logic of it all, but that wouldn't be unusual for me! Anyway all the ranting in the world will not change an individual's own risk assessment in the end.