Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

I'll disregard Twitter for the cesspool that it is. Omicron is more transmissable apparently but the illness is milder than delta which for the majority of the population was mild anyway. Try not to worry too much.

Exactly this. This is just the beginning, unfortunately.

Why 8pm?

Why not 10pm and at least the off licences will be closed when people stumble out of pubs and want to go to house parties

I think at this stage we should probably consider locking down to 5km or adopting a Austrian model and restricting with police power all those who have only had *two doses* to their house. Only the boostered should be allowed out, and they must be allowed out as it will keep the economy somewhat running.

At this stage nothing is more important than shots in arms - Omicron has the potential to be devastating. Its terrible to see all the double jabbed thinking and assuming they were safe. This was never said. No one said having two doses prevented transmission, or would return life to normal this Christmas, it certainly was never suggested that granny might be saved by your first two jabs. Lets be honest you just want a few drinks - BUT please think about how dangerous you will be with only two shots, get your third RIGHT NOW or the safe humans might have to consider you an anti-science, flat-earther, trump-supporter. Being viewed this way would truly be worse than dying.

(obviously humour and sarcasm for those who get confused easily)

I have no doubt this will not be the end of it. We'll go piece by piece into lockdown. Or could be real quick, too. First sign of cases rising it will be panic stations and then I wouldnt put anything past them. Either way. Lockdown it is. Just a matter of time.

Yeah its sad that the medical health professionals steering Irelands path through this have fallen into such disrepute. Some might say that the continued existence of NPHET is a medical negative. This is something that should be deeply examined with a broad remit. Why did this happen, and have the members of NPHET done anything that might suggest they deserved this loss of faith?

Haven't been following much here but a few months ago there were several posters absolutely adamant that there would be no more lockdowns and those saying there would be were 'conspiracy theorists'.

we said vaccine passports were going to require regular top us and lo and behold Two doses don't work now, you will need three (of the same potion that didn't work with two) and then 4/5/6/7 - even though the current vaccines don't really work against the new variant- ( current NPHET models give the 2 doses little protection against omicron and 3rd jab 70% initial protection at best).

Anyway my question is, anyone previously pro lockdown now changing their mind?

Ooh thanks for that!Heading out Sun...places will prob be jointed this weekend

Answered already

Given that this was recorded in summer 2020 before any vaccines were approved- has there ever been any video that has aged better?

The only way out now is for a good proportion of the population to refuse boosters. We already know they will be required to 'live' in the near future but if enough refuse them then they won't be viable.

I was in my local for 3 pints as normal this evening. Left as normal at 930. It was very very busy !!!!

it going to be a crazy weekend in pubs which is counter productive.

Stephens Day id normally head over around 4 and head home around 9 before it gets too messy. This year everyone will be bottlenecked into a 3 or 4 hour period ( I won’t go over now ). Again counter productive.

And the talk amongst a lot of my friends (40-49 year olds ) is they won’t bother getting the booster now. Once again counter productive.

So overall a waste of time and so frustrating. I’m not at all political but I never ever want to see or hear M Martin speak again. Spineless.

So your argument is that the 30 members of NPHET are basing their public health advice on what will benefit their investment portfolios rather than what will benefit public health. Is that it?

To be fair, you don't need to be easily confused anymore to wonder if your comment is serious or not.

Poe's law and all that.

Of course we'll tolerate it.

Lets be honest here, we've been one of the easiest nations to subdue and control during this thing. Most of our population have been happy to swallow countless lies and false promises from our politicians. There has been very little desire to question people in authority, like in other countries, or to question the merit of most of the measures implemented.

Sadly, the mentality has very much been one of "any old port in a storm" from most people. Content to follow any sort of leadership figure - even terrible hapless ones like we have in government - rather than engage their own brain and trust their own judgement.

It's the lazy option, for people who don't want any kind of complications in their life.