Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

The virus is not endemic yet though.

Do you think people should go to work with symptoms? If not, are you willing to pay them for any time off work? Or maybe if they get tested, and it's positive, they can isolate and claim some money from the government. It will be a lot more than you will offer them.

So only the public sector is fueling the current caseload, that's a very strange take on it. Have you any lick of evidence to back that claim up?

The definition of Endemic is not about the % of cases you catch though. Go look it up.

So only HSE worker's kids test positive to Covid?

And any HSE worker who tests positive don't still have to look after a kid at home because their kid can't go to school?

You seem to have an issue with HSE or Public Sector workers who have kids who test positive.

I'm not familiar with the HSE guidelines for works who are close contacts of a confirmed case (I know at one stage it was different than the general public), but certainly those workers would be better off staying away from patients if their kids test positive? You want them working and mingling with patients instead?

Irish Times reporting that no indication of the severity of restrictions was given by NPHET at the Tuesday meeting with government leaders. The main purpose of the meeting was to ensure no surprises yesterday/today.

How many times now have NPHET pulled this stunt? Simply unacceptable behaviour. They need to be seriously spoken to or an additional group should be formed to lessen their power.

Is there a reason a government liaison couldn't be sitting in on NPHET meetings?

It would certainly remove these surprises and Government could get ahead of any issues/leaks.

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Just some thoughts using amateur basic segmentation, there is a large group, probably around 60% judging by lowest uptake in other countries that trust the experts, feel vulnerable, want to help others etc. that took vaccines gladly and will take boosters too. Great.

Then there is a group of sceptics that just don’t trust the vaccine and won’t take it without extreme coercion. In Ireland this is a small number because of the strong social contract, probably under 10% judging by success of first roll out.

Then there is a group of around 30% that are not strongly motivated in either direction. First time out there was a form of social contract where by and large this group were happy to take the vaccine to protect the vulnerable on the understanding that then life could return to normal. And for many they believed this was the end game. This delivered a 90+% vaccination rate.

A marketing expert would probably tell you this 30% is your key group to encourage to get boosters if you believe that’s the priority. But the attraction of boosters is lower this time out as they offer less personal upside to this group. For example, you need a negative test as well as a vaccine passport to re enter the state. Makes it a much higher hurdle to leave Ireland for more than a day or two. Now we add new limits on socialisation for vaccinated people, closing earlier and likely expiry of vaccine pass in a few months. Also talk that a fourth etc. will be needed soon.

I know there’s many other factors at play but I think for many of the 30% the calculations will be different this time and it will take much longer to get to overall boosted numbers much above 75 or 80%.

I don't believe that times report for a second. This has been a very choreographed charade IMO. Tony laid out what they wanted, and they all agreed to leak the worst case scenario, while their real intention was what that fraud of a taoiseach announced yesterday evening.

There was no surprise, Government would have us think that The CMO and Philip Nolan, met MM, LEO & Eamonn Ryan during the week to discuss Christmas gifts idea's, it's utter nonsense. I've absolutely no doubt restriction measures were discussed, it's simply beggars belief, 2 days later somehow NPHET miraculously came up with new restriction idea's.

NPHET met on Thursday, all quite until the standard letter was sent across Thursday evening. Leaks commenced shortly afterwards.

Next morning Government TD's and senators rolled out to express shock and horror, then we hear "Yet again" ministers blind sided as no mention of any restrictions mentioned or flagged at earlier meeting during the week. (This excuse really worn out by now)

Then the silliness went from ridiculous to absolute farce, Government were going to "Defy" NPHET by 3 hours, now we entered the Territory of just plain absurdity.

Meehole goes to the Plint, announces the 8pm closure hoping the nation would be greatful of his Brave stance (Complete Tool)

Finally and to use, Leo's favorite word 'Peculiar " the CMO turns up later at the government press conference in a pathetic show of Solidarity, the Gag order didn't last too long. Not once, I repeat, Not once has the CMO attended these after announcement press conferences and yet we're supposed to believe there was no Coordination regarding the ultimate decision on further restrictions.

It's incredulous, Ludicrous, Beyond belief and actually quite pathetic.

We can however be thankful for one thing, Eaomonn Ryan's absence from the press conference 😏

Yup this has been how to undermine a booster rollout in 24 hours.

I was never vulnerable, I took it so life could resume.

As I've said many times during this, COVID has changed all, some have even managed to enthusiastically embrace their worst devils. Yeah it's great for someone whose path though life seems to involve an unhealthy level of otherness but we really must keep the unwashed outside the gates.