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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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    #25352
    km79
    Registered Users Posts: 48,235 ✭✭✭✭km79


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341370#Comment_118341370

    Zero per cent

    Secondary students didn’t need one (nor staff for that matter ) . In fact they can’t even be asked if they have taken one when they test positive or are close contact etc



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    #25353
    Luxembourgo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341419#Comment_118341419

    Yeah a real horrible side to the country has emerged, a fanatical resentment of those who don't "comply"



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    #25354
    Red Silurian
    Registered Users Posts: 9,178 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    I've seen a Facebook post get shared twice in the last few hours from a page called "Restrictions Updates Ireland"

    PUBLICANS PLANNING TO IGNORE TAOISEACHS 8PM CLOSING.. REBELLION WITHIN THE INDUSTRY BEGINS MONDAY

    Obviously it's only a rumor and not the most reliable news source but every major decision started with a rumor so I'd keep the eye open on this one



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    #25355
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341464#Comment_118341464

    I can't see it happening personally but at a minimum a lot of rural pubs will just close until end of January, there'd be no sense whatsoever in them opening for essentially 3 hours trade. I also think larger pubs offering food etc will start cutting back on services, food etc and try and weather the storm, no doubt there'll be a lot of staff ay offs. The real question is how long this new dictate will last, I'd be very sceptical of a relaxing of these measures happening end of January.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #25356
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341464#Comment_118341464

    I hope they do - if every pub / restaurant in the country was in solidarity then the government would have to either roll back on the restrictions or call a general election as theyve lost the mandate from the electorate.



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    #25357
    the kelt
    Registered Users Posts: 1,892 ✭✭✭the kelt


    We really are an anti vaxxers wet dream in this country.

    The most restricted country in Europe over the past 2 years along with being one of the most vaccinated countries in Europe,



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    #25358
    Luxembourgo
    Registered Users Posts: 1,496 ✭✭✭Luxembourgo


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341496#Comment_118341496

    This is my own thinking

    I won't be boosted before Christmas, had a bad kick with dose 2 and don't want that before Christmas. I might get around to it in the new year, might not.

    Not like I'll be going anywhere, or I am high risk. Id rather the booster went to someone who needs it more, if even to help their anxiety



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    #25359
    lawred2
    Registered Users Posts: 24,375 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341504#Comment_118341504

    Doing a grand job undermining the vaccines alright.



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    #25360
    Pigeon Chaser
    Registered Users Posts: 254 ✭✭Pigeon Chaser


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341373#Comment_118341373

    Don't see it playing out like that.


    It's not a requirement for second level.



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    #25361
    Danno
    Registered Users Posts: 8,913 ✭✭✭Danno


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341521#Comment_118341521

    Exactly, alot of folks (apart from the bedwetters) under 50 are asking the same questions - what was the point of the vaccines, the language and actions of Government and NPHET suggest they've failed spectacularly.



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    #25362
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341502#Comment_118341502

    They won't, it's heat of the moment stuff at work. It's Christmas week and they'll just muddle through and they'll see where they are over the break.



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    #25363
    ebbsy
    Registered Users Posts: 6,872 ✭✭✭ebbsy


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118340451#Comment_118340451

    Yep.

    The house parties is where it happens.

    I should know as my son contracted it this way down in Limerick last year.



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    #25364
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    I could be wrong and hopefully I am but I'm beginning to think government underming its own vaccine message. We're constantly being told we're in a better place 🤔, Really 🤔, they constantly quote how well we're doing, Number 4 etc in Europe for boosters , this very government fought against boosting health care workers last September 🙄

    I personally believed vaccine protection was waning months ago and yet government only really accepted this around November.

    The booster campaign was a shambles during the first few weeks , even before Omicron appeared and then they open it up to the entire population knowing systems weren't coping and not enough staff in place.

    Then , there's all the measures, track and trace they'd essentially abandoned in September, antigen testing debacle etc

    Obviously Omicron wasn't anticipated but the dogs on street new variants were always a possibility.

    I personally got my booster (immune compromised) 2 weeks ago and am greatful but I was struck listening to others at the GP surgery, how many were asking the same Question, why are we bothering and this before yesterday's announcements.

    Again, hope I'm wrong but honestly someone at government or Health Department level needs to stop and think, what's going on is just absurd and its only going to get worse .

    Again all the above a humble opinion.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #25365
    mcsean2163
    Registered Users Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    Just to point out, studies show influenza vaccine only lasts 6 months. Then it has no benefit. Covid19 vaccine seems to be slightly better.


    e.g. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.16.21267902v1


    Just because you're double vaxxed won't really mean anything scientifically from a certain period of time. If you want protection a booster will be required. Deciding that you're going to have a go at NPHET by not getting booster could backfire if you're one of the unlucky ones susceptible to covid19.



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    #25366
    Hellrazer
    Moderators, Arts Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 10,676 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hellrazer


    Deciding that you're going to have a go at NPHET by not getting booster could backfire if you're one of the unlucky ones susceptible to covid19.


    I think Ill take my less than 1% chance of serious illness over a booster any day.



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    #25367
    mcsean2163
    Registered Users Posts: 1,839 ✭✭✭mcsean2163


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341598#Comment_118341598

    That's up to you, personally I've very little concern for my health as regards covid19 but will get booster to keep my wife happy, covid19 travel pass and potentially help out health care workers.

    My point is that covid19 vaccine is not like measles vaccine. If you want to be protected you'll likely need a vaccination at least once a year or natural immunity.

    Covid19 vaccine is like food.

    You don't say, I was told to eat today and I did and I'm not eating again.



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    #25368
    tommybrees
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    The pandemic supports were renewed until end of April.

    I'll be absolutely shocked if any of these restrictions will be lifted before then.

    Hope I'm wrong.

    That **** what was going to be a brilliant 6 nations.

    Even st Patrick's day is ruined again.

    2022 looks wrote off already.



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    #25369
    BruteStock
    Registered Users Posts: 1,290 ✭✭✭BruteStock


    A triple vaxxed person has no more rights after 8pm than a completely unvaccinated person. How is this acceptable? Can Luke O Neil disappear into the ether now because everything he has uttered over the last year has been complete bollox.



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    #25370
    normanoffside
    Registered Users Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭normanoffside


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341354#Comment_118341354

    Yes, hospital and ICU numbers have dropped significantly (they seem to have gotten a hold on Hospital outbreaks). Numbers testing positive have stabilised and a new milder variant is on the scene. All very positive stuff but yet we are given more restrictions.



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    #25371
    tommybrees
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    You can see why the HSE is such a shambles and mess now.

    The absolutely nonsense decisions these guys make is plain for all to see.



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    #25372
    tommybrees
    Registered Users Posts: 389 ✭✭tommybrees


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341442#Comment_118341442

    I hope you're right but I think you will be proven wrong at some stage in 2022.



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    #25373
    tomgrange1978
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭tomgrange1978


    Some questions I think most people want answered honestly are

    From Monday why can you enter a pub at 11 am and drink like a savage until 8pm but not enter a pub at 5 pm and drink until midnight . How does that work?

    people who are at house parties over Xmas and drinking all hours, why is this allowable?

    why are schools open? Why are they open next week? surely the virus is running wild amongst the young and they will give to mum and dad and siblings and they will pass on etc etc, I don’t get why If this virus is so dangerous the schools are not closed.

    why are we allowing flights into the country regardless of vaccination and even when flights were basically banned last year why were the government allowing employers fly in cheap labour, like Larry goodman and other food processors etc etc, from Brazil where at the time the virus was not only rampant but mutating

    why are rich countries like Ireland allowed to buy up millions of vaccines to offer third and fourth jabs to people but countries in Africa, South America and Asia can’t even offer first jabs to their people , this more then anything is dreadful to see and also to see people Just explain it away with a wave of the hand. When you are giving a rich white 5 year old a jab while a 75 year old poor black woman dies of covid and you can’t see the problem with this then you are a racist.

    i wish someone would ask our leaders those questions



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    #25374
    Frank Bullitt
    Registered Users Posts: 11,551 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    Told my friends in Canada about the restrictions and then about hospital numbers dropping. "What? Why the hell would they do that?" EXACTLY!



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    #25375
    bokale
    Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341707#Comment_118341707

    Just on the first one, I imagine its as simple as most people being in work so they are cutting down options for a lot of people with this, if it was 5 onwards it wouldn't have the same impact at all as time would suit most people and most planned nights out. My go to local only opens at 5pm.



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    #25376
    tomgrange1978
    Registered Users Posts: 51 ✭✭tomgrange1978


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341727#Comment_118341727

    But many people are off for Xmas and will just rock out earlier



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    #25377
    brickster69
    Registered Users Posts: 5,620 ✭✭✭brickster69


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341669#Comment_118341669

    Everything comes back to one thing with Ireland. It's now either vaccinate 100% of the population and keep topping them up or restrictions.

    And it is all down to the fear of the hospitals getting over run at the end of the day, yet up to now they have never been over run. The government can't seem to get even close to the idea of actually living with it, but somehow they will have to at some point. It's impossible to carry on this way, it is coming up to 2 years of some sort of restrictions soon.

    “The earth is littered with the ruins of empires that believed they were eternal.”

    - Camille Paglia



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    #25378
    Dempo1
    Registered Users Posts: 26,978 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341727#Comment_118341727

    I'd be concerned for anyone wishing to drink like a savage from 11am to 8pm 😁

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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    #25379
    bokale
    Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341745#Comment_118341745

    Yes true, but the days off are the minority, (remember as its currently till the end of Jan).

    And many people won't be able to head out earlier too, people with kids etc find the evenings more doable.

    It's for sure the best way to effect socialising in pubs.



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    #25380
    eggy81
    Registered Users Posts: 2,040 ✭✭✭eggy81


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341157#Comment_118341157

    The issue is with them getting full pay.



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    #25381
    bokale
    Registered Users Posts: 1,876 ✭✭✭bokale


    https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/118341748#Comment_118341748

    ha I think in the current climate we can turn a blind eye!! Support your early morning local!



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