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Wood stove in timber frame house

  • 18-12-2021 7:12pm
    #1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭


    Hi,

    I have no chimney in my timber framed semi detached ,


    inner leaf is timber structure, outer clan is block. I want to put a small stove in the corner of the kitchen at an external wall, is this possible ?

    Do I need so much clearance from the timber frame and the flu?

    some people have told me I can do it...other people said they wouldn’t as it’s to dangerous as the house may go up in flames ??


    advice please ?



Answers

  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,890 ✭✭✭meercat


    I’ve seen a house fire from a badly installed stove in a timber framed house

    the owner only noticed when the landing smoke detector activated. The fire tracked into the attic between the timber frame and outside walls


    i certainly wouldn’t install one in my house if it were timber framed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭newfy


    Ok thanks for the reply,


    surly there is a safe way of doing it



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    Sure you can put a stove in a tent so you can easily do this in a house


    Plenty of flus go out through the roof, again this is timber


    Log cabins etc all with stoves

    You just have a fitting that holds the flue as it goes through the wall, keeps it away from combustibles



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,971 ✭✭✭dzer2


    Most stoves come with instructions for installation. These will tell you how far the stove has to be away from a combustible surface. As for the flue. You can go out through the roof or the side wall. Any certified installer will advise what you need



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭newfy


    I called 2 certified installers, both said they would run a mile from installing on a timber framed house, one said I would need to cut any part of the timber frame and ply attached to stud around 1 metered square from the flu,


    he said insulated flues still get very hot and it’s just to dangerous near frame



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,141 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    As far as I remember there's no certification for installers here unless they went with the UK one unless that's changed in the last say 2 years

    So cowboy central

    Ask them how they would put a stove through a ceiling which is a common solution

    The frame has space in it


    The flue gets hot enough, but that's what the fitting is for, I mean even in a block house, there could still be plasterboard and a frame behind it on am external wall


    So just go up through the ceiling of possible



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 272 ✭✭Brndn


    I have a timber frame house, no block, only timber. I have a fairly big wood stove that does all the heating (hot water, radiators). I used a firebreak called "Ignis protect" from Schiedel.

    The flue and firebreak system were specified by an engineer specialising in this.

    There are set distances required from combustible material to the flue but it's totally doable. It's also totally standard practice in Europe to have a stove in a timber frame house or log cabin.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭newfy


    Thank you for the reply’s, I will look further into this,


    I don’t want to go through ceiling just through the wall.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,076 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Morning, yes is the answer however with caveats.

    I built an extension onto my restored cottage 10 years ago. The structure was a steel frame set into a 2ft deep solid foundation.

    Built around this was a 100% timber frame, to include Marine ply, external heat treated timber cladding, insulation and plasterboard, no brick work.

    The solution for the stove was a Twin Lined flue with a frame to minimise excessive heat around the area where flue when through wall to exterior.

    Twin flue is supposed to minimise flue getting extremely hot but I learned this not sufficient and on occasions it can actually get red hot so careful planning is required.

    I'm not an expert but got professional advice, it's all about protecting the timber frame, insulation from catching fire. My stove was also set a little further away from interior wall and decorate stone built up behind for extra protection.

    OP has the extra challenge of block work outside, this actually a good thing as the flue can rest on this, I had to have flue braced away from external wall as it is timber cladding.

    My extension is single story and back then the twin line flue alone cost €700, its not cheap but a lot less expensive than building an external chimney.

    Good luck but get professional advice


    Cat approves

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 97 ✭✭newfy




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,076 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Thank you, the only mistake I made was the stove was an after thought, it may have been easier if I had planned it into original design 😉

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




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