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  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12


    After 2 years of having felt "something just doesn't feel right" about this pandemic and the responses to it, this below interview finally answered a lot of questions for me and was almost like an "aha" moment.  

    i guess a synopsis would be that the world is being slowly marched, through mass formation or mass psychosis, into a new totalitarian regime. 

    pre-pandemic the world had (and still has) so many crisis including climate change, energy crisis, financial crisis etc that something had to give and now it seems that the world is now being pushed towards more technocratic solutions or transhumanism, where the powers that be believe that technological solutions may be the only way to solve everything.


    therefore some people are believing that a glimpse of the future is not where governments will be governing nations but will be just one entity of partnerships which govern...the other entities will be big tech, big corporations etc. our new masters won't be the stalins or the hitlers of old but rather more boring faceless bureaucrats. it was also interesting to learn the difference between dictatorships and totaltarianism. 


    personally i now believe the purpose of the whole pandemic was solely to bring in covid passes and the idea of digital passes to carry on your normal life....it's the first step to get everyone locked into a system where they rely on technology to continue with their daily lives. i guess. as other have said.like a social credit system. everything will be tied to your digital id in the future to control you, reward you or punish you. easy enough done really when you think about it. once they get control of your bank accounts they've really got you where they want you. 


    professor desmet said that in any totalitarian regime, 30% of the populace are completely hynoptised and blindly submit to the regime, 40% are kind of on the fence but go along with it and 30% absolute refuse to partake...so i'm guessing anyone in the first 30% category will be completely against this message. i'd be interested to hear what the 40% on-the-fencers think about this theory though





  • Registered Users Posts: 17,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Alright, and this is a popular theme among conspiracy theorists.

    So once they have "control" of our ID's, our bank accounts, etc - what exactly does your local Sinn Fein or Fine Gael TD do then? What happens to those who are against this? (politicians don't all magically agree, quite the opposite)

    If you don't know the answers, why aren't you applying the most basic of critical thinking to this?



  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12


    I think you missed on the point i was trying to make above. Everyone has known that democracy has been under serious threat throughout the world in recent years with many countries electing more authoritarian leaders..brazil, hungary, turkey etc.

    If western societies proceed down this totalitarian pathway as described in the interview with Dr Desmet above, then it doesn't matter what any td does or says because they won't be the ones in charge anymore. As I said above, if this theory is correct as Dr Desmet describes above, we won't be governed democratically anymore but rather as coalition with big tech, pharma, corps and parliaments with perhaps the parliaments taking a back seat.

    I've read some articles where people are saying this is already in motion with the participation of big tech and corporations at davos, UN summit meetings etc etc. Which is personally something I'd like to research more, I haven't been focused on what is happening at these global levels in recent times, but it might be worth looking more closely into.



  • Registered Users Posts: 17,984 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Yeah, right-wing populism has been a thing in recent years, however the US just elected Biden, Bolsonero is deeply unpopular and likely to lose the next election. "Big tech" and corporations aren't interested in state control.

    Anyway back to vaccines.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Isn't it weird how conspiracy views on vaccines seem to align with Trumpism? Or did Trumpism align with anti-science views because that was a good market to exploit?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx



    Remember that time when the President of Tanzania ordered a papaya and motor oil to be

    tested for COVID-19, both of which came back positive?

    Good times.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    No because it's another debunked factoid that your blindly repeating.


    What's this got to do with your guys also false claims about vaccine safety?



  • Registered Users Posts: 913 ✭✭✭buzzerxx




  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Debunked because it is.

    Still not sure what it has to do with vaccine safety? Or are you literally just throwing bullshit you've been fed because you guys are desperate.



  • Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭bb12


    one to ponder perhaps

    "Why Most Published Research Findings Are False"

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Why_Most_Published_Research_Findings_Are_False



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  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    So there for the vaccines are part of a depopulation plan?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    you really do need to be spoon fed

    I'd say your mother was glad to see you finally get out from underneath her feet



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    watch the video and see for yourself

    Like I said the technology is there

    The CEO of Pfizer openly talking about it and mentioning compliance



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    and here we have a report showing some of the main reasons for the increase in mortality in care homes when they overcrowded them and left the people to fend for themselves for days in rooms in isolation

    Unfortunately they were lambs to the slaughter

    As the average age of death in Ireland from COVID in 2020 was 82, its clear to see why most of these people in this age cohort died, hence a massive inflation of the numbers of deaths

    The IT has reported that 85% of deaths from COVID had underlying conditions






  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    Big tech as usual trying to censor any data on the vaccine safety

    https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635/rr-80



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor



    The British government has spilled the beans about that fact that once you get double jabbed, you will never again be able to acquire full natural immunity against Covid variants - or possibly any virus. 

    In its Week 42 “COVID-19 vaccine surveillance report,” the U.K. Health Security Agency admitted on page 23 that “N antibody levels appear to be lower in people who acquire infection following two doses of vaccination.” It goes on to explain that this antibody drop is basically permanent.


    What’s this mean? 

    We know the vaccines do not stop infection or transmission of the virus (in fact, the report shows elsewhere that vaccinated adults are now being infected at much HIGHER rates than the unvaccinated).


    What the British are saying is they are now finding the vaccine interferes with your body’s innate ability after infection to produce antibodies against not just the spike protein but other pieces of the virus. Specifically, vaccinated people don’t seem to be producing antibodies to the nucleocapsid protein, the shell of the virus, which are a crucial part of the response in unvaccinated people.


    In the long term, people who take the vaccine will be far more vulnerable to any mutations in the spike protein that might come along, even if they have already been infected and recovered once, or more than once.


    Those who chose not to take the COVID-19 vaccines, meanwhile, will procure lasting, if not permanent, immunity to all strains of the alleged virus after being infected with it naturally even just once.


    Read it for yourself.. Page 24.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    The very safe Janssen Vaccine

    WHAT ARE THE RISKS OF THE JANSSEN COVID-19 VACCINE?

    Side effects that have been reported with the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine include:

    • Injection site reactions: pain, redness of the skin and swelling.

    • General side effects: headache, feeling very tired, muscle aches, nausea, and fever.

    • Swollen lymph nodes.

    • Blood clots.

    • Unusual feeling in the skin (such as tingling or a crawling feeling) (paresthesia), decreased feeling

    or sensitivity, especially in the skin (hypoesthesia).

    • Persistent ringing in the ears (tinnitus).

    • Diarrhea, vomiting.

    Severe Allergic Reactions

    There is a remote chance that the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine could cause a severe allergic

    reaction. A severe allergic reaction would usually occur within a few minutes to one hour after

    getting a dose of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. For this reason, your vaccination provider may

    ask you to stay at the place where you received your vaccine for monitoring after vaccination.

    Signs of a severe allergic reaction can include:

    • Difficulty breathing,

    • Swelling of your face and throat,

    • A fast heartbeat,

    • A bad rash all over your body,

    • Dizziness and weakness.

    • Shortness of breath

    • Chest pain,

    • Leg swelling,

    • Persistent abdominal pain,

    • Severe or persistent headaches or blurred vision,

    • Easy bruising or tiny blood spots under the skin beyond the site of the injection

    Guillain Barré Syndrome

    Guillain Barré syndrome (a neurological disorder in which the body’s immune system damages

    nerve cells, causing muscle weakness and sometimes paralysis) has occurred in some people who

    have received the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. In most of these people, symptoms began within

    42 days following receipt of the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine. The chance of having this occur is

    very low. You should seek medical attention right away if you develop any of the following

    symptoms after receiving the Janssen COVID-19 Vaccine:

    • Weakness or tingling sensations, especially in the legs or arms, that’s worsening and spreading

    to other parts of the body.

    • Difficulty walking.

    • Difficulty with facial movements, including speaking, chewing, or swallowing.

    • Double vision or inability to move eyes.

    • Difficulty with bladder control or bowel function.


    https://www.fda.gov/media/146305/download



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    all this information and the topic of Covid Vaccines Safety is in a Conspiracy Theories section

    Why?

    Are you trying to hide the information from the main forum that talks about the vaccines ?



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    I was told that you couldnt put microchips into medication, that it was all a load of horse **** and a conspiracy theory

    Admit now I was right and I'll forgive you



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,798 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    The very safe strawberry

    A severe allergy to strawberries may result in a life-threatening allergic reaction called anaphylaxis. Anaphylaxis causes several symptoms to occur at the same time and requires immediate emergency medical treatment. The symptoms of a severe allergic reaction include:

    Stay away from strawberries sheeple!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor




  • Registered Users Posts: 12,798 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Oh Christ this again. This is garden variety stuff. Boring, dull.

    If you had "done your research" you'd know hes that talking about reducing the rate of population growth, not the current population. You probably know this already but for some weird reason you persist.

    I do find it very very amusing though that you may actually believe Bill Gates openly admitted in pubic that he wants to murder 3 billion people. Fantastic banter.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Yet another closing of the circle. All rehashed stuff because there is nothing original to claim and nothing behind the nefarious and stupid claims made by conspiracy theorists. Reading the same sites that recycle the stories every few months to make conspiracy theorists that they are onto something new.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    people arent being coerced to take strawberries to keep their civil liberties

    Stupid argument



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,485 ✭✭✭Fighting Tao


    Yeah civil liberties claim turned out to be nonsense too. No one is coerced either.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,798 ✭✭✭✭The Nal




  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lol. Spamming more and more debunked crap.


    So the theory is again that the vaccines are secretly part of a depopulation plan orchastrated by Bill Gates.

    This is what you are proposing.

    This is why this thread is in the conspiracy section and why no one takes you seriously and laughs at you.



  • Registered Users Posts: 25,236 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Also, did you not read the read of that page you're screen shoting from your phone?

    Maybe you shouldn't be doing your "research" on the phone while you're on the toilet.

    Real research generally takes a bit long and a bit more effort than that.



  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    how does one reduce the rate of population growth with vaccines?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 11,220 ✭✭✭✭Lex Luthor


    so not being able to fly on a plane, eat in a restaurant, drink in a bar, go to a cinema, eat in a restaurant for dinner or breakfast in a hotel and having to show a confirmation of a medical treatment to avail of all these? That's not coercion?



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