Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2024/25

After all the shenanigans today, we could've won that at the end had Tsimikas been a bit more up to the pace of the game and put in the cross for Salah earlier. Missed opportunity. Mo was raging.

Tottenham should have had four in the first half. Konate and Matip were playing too deep and not holding the line. The absence of VanDijk is not a mitigating factor for a lack of coherence or composure at the back.

It’s bad when it’s hard to get the rules right when two broadcasters are saying different things

Straight red cards for dangerous tackles or violent conduct are 3 match bans which can be raised to more if merited.

So my taking of the red card was Robbo was sent off for a dangerous tackle so I would imagine it's a 3 match ban.

I don't get that or maybe I just don't understand the rules in relation to so-called dangerous challenges. Kane's body position seemed entirely natural for an attempted sliding challenge. He was marginally late, missed the ball and caught Robertson on the ankle with his studs - not with particular force. I can't what he could have done otherwise. If it were a wildly out of control two footed lunge, well fair enough. Klopp would have a case in that event.

Might actually be more than a 3 game ban then. Bein Sports seemed sure that a yellow meant he'd get a 1 game ban as he's picked up too many of those so far. If a straight red means an automatic 3 game ban, then also triggering the culmunitive yellows target means he'll likely get a 4 game ban possibly?

That's a ban for klopp?

Obviously and var official

*could have

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Seriously...

If you can't see the problem maybe this isn't a sport for you

Otherwise that post is a wind up

MOTD

Lets see what they make of it all

Shearer two incompetent referees one on the pitch and one at VAR.

Shearer admits England captains get treated differently after being one himself.

Mane should have gathered the ball before KAne scored, really weak in that moment. Ball was his all day long, and he lost it.

He is dead right.

Mike Riley and team are just making it up week to week now.

That was shocking as well.

The problem with VAR in the Premier League has always been the people handling it. There is an exceptionalism to them and they are also covering each other in the media and with the PGMOL. This can be seen in the VAR booth with the "clear and obvious error" crap. They wrote it like that because they don't want someone's ego to be hurt on the field that they made a mistake, instead setting a higher threshold to overturn the incompetence on the field.

Look at this explanation from Peter Walton,

So he thinks the reason Kane didn't get a red is because Robertson's leg wasn't broken. Also, because Kane isn't a dirty player it would have come into his reckoning. Robertson's only red card before was also more than 10 years ago, didn't seem to have an effect on his decision. They are a joke, both referees and those above them covering for them.

The decisions got no less galling after a night's sleep.

The fact the likes of Peter Walton are defending it shows what a shambles the whole thing is.

I've seen so many teams fúcked over by officials this season. It's not bias. It's not being a homer. It's worse. It's pure, unadulterated incompetence that is allowed and enabled to continue by the likes of Walton and Dermot Gallagher who try to reason the decisions out - so there is literally no consequence.

In hindsight, with that midfield, no VVD and that refereeing performance, that was a miraculous point.

Three big decisions in the game and they all went against Liverpool.

Kane - no red.

Jota - no pen.

Robbo - red (and correctly so).

The PL need to do something about the refs. They're just not good enough. The decisions in our game and Newcastle not getting a pen just highlight this. Every week there's at least two very easy decisions given incorrectly that affect the outcome of games.

The league is the best league in the world, many of the best players in world are playing in it and the teams are coached by some of the best managers in the world. Then you have probably the worst refs in Europe taking charge of games. It's madness.

These are the games where you, at the very least, need officials to be competent.

Also, we need to remember, for any other team bar City and Liverpool, that's a good point yesterday. The standard has been set so fúcking high that drawing at a rested Conte team, when decisions all went against us, is seen as failure.

How exactly did VAR ruin yesterday's game? There was an incompetent referee on the pitch and an equally incompetent person behind VAR. Had the referee done his job for the first incident (ie dismiss Kane) there would have been no issue. The fact VAR didn't intervene and suggest a review there but did for Robbo is galling, but that is down to the person reviewing. The technology itself had nothing to do with it.

They need to take humans out of the decision making loop!

Sorry Yes I never put in that the people reviewing these decisions are more at fault than the technology itself,that's the point I was trying too get across

VAR is there to help the ref.

And it gave the ref, who was having a bad game (and this can happen), no help at all.

If the games go ahead as scheduled he will be back for the Chelsea game

Ahh come on Robertson was a red card, ref had 3 big calls to make he got one right with the help of VAR, but VAR did nothing for the other 2.

interesting to hear the thoughts on Keita's performance yesterday. At the best of times, he is a divisive player anyways.

Yesterday was a makeshift midfield, with both Milner & Keita starting their first games after injury, and both playing 90 mins which they usually don't last the full 90.

I thought Keita was very bipolar yesterday, albeit in somewhat difficult circumstances. He would have 10 min spells looking great, but then would be lost for 10 mins. and repeat. His numbers from the game do look impressive. Some context needed though as for example he made the most tackles in the game, but it was his lack of strength in the tackle that resulted in the first Spurs goal.