ESRI confirms Irish welfare dependent population is TWICE that of Germany or France

Just one reasonable source

https://www.cso.ie/en/releasesandpublications/ep/p-cp8iter/p8iter/p8itseah/

"There were 10,653 Travellers in the labour force in 2016 and of these 8,541 were unemployed, giving an unemployment rate of 80.2 per cent. 2,112 persons were at work in 2016.

The labour force participation rate among Irish Travellers was 57 per cent compared with 61.4 per cent for the general population.

Among females 972 were at work while 2,938 were looking after the home, representing 30.4 per cent of Traveller women aged 15 or over.

Almost 1 in 8 (11.3%) Travellers indicated they were unable to work due to a disability, nearly three times the equivalent rate for the general population (4.3%)."

I believe he was replying to nonsense with nonsense in a whimsical fashion. It tickled me anyway. 😅

Get out of it. Selling children born in this country is and definitely should be out of bounds. Anyone who doesn't agree with that is a lunatic and don't deserve discussion. A I can't believe I actually had to type that

Out of curiosity, Is there a figure on this massive problem?

I do need to see figures as it would give me an accurate representation of how much we actually spend on this massive problem.

I agree with you, but the large proportion of single mothers is an issue in Ireland.

We should look into and try to identify why family units are failing and this is occurring.

The better the family unit the better chance kids have.

Can't view that, am unsure if excessive welfare or government waste was an option

You think there are more single parents cos property prices are too high?

That the higher the cost of living the more single parents we should expect?

I would agree these are problems for others deciding to have less children, have two myself, with the two of us working decent jobs and a third would bankrupt us.

And yes and it does gall me when I hear people blaming the government for not housing them immediately with no family,, husband, wife seemingly there or ready to help. This attitude will become the kids attitude etc etc.

And to clear I am not bashing or blaming, it is the fault of the systems, politicians and media that have led to this dysfunction

Well if taxes were cut/services increased with the money, you'd have a few people very annoyed and a lot of people a bit happier.

The caveats here are that a) we always want to have a safety net and b) there need to be jobs out there to do, which isn't always the case depending on what is going on in the economy.

Nobody really wants to be working in McDonalds, but there is honest work to be done there and if you haven't got the skills for anything else (especially given that the government throws money at upskilling people) it's not clear why everyone should have to richly subsidise folks who just couldn't be arsed making any contribution to society at all.

There's definitely a sense that the government (whoever it is) does not tend to get a lot of value for taxpayers' money. The National Broadband rollout is an emerging example - looks like the bidders took the civil service for a complete ride.

Thats interesting I had always assumed they were "rank these" or "choose your top 3" - must be some job to categorize answers together.

As someone who has built and designed multiple surveys thats a pretty poor approach to getting usable data