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Is Ed Sheeran the greatest music artist of all time?

  • 20-12-2021 12:48am
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    His concert sales and albums speak for itself. His music is fantastic as well.

    I can't think of anyone better than him.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Garth Brooks or go fúck yourself.



  • Registered Users Posts: 33,754 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    It is obviously Taylor Swift as Ed Sheehan sings songs on her albums at times and was the support act to her tour in the past…



  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,170 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Eh... No. Just no. Repeating, forever. EG:


    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,612 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    NO



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,915 ✭✭✭Greyfox


    You sound like you've only listened to 20 songs in your life. Your comment is an insult to the actual greats.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Listened to a lot of artists and Ed is indeed the Billy GOAT



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    I don’t know, guys. I’m sensing a lot of negativity and defensiveness, but no actual arguments against the claim. OP might be on to something.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,211 ✭✭✭✭Danzy


    He certainly is the best musician out of England since the 70s.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,211 ✭✭✭✭Danzy





  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,612 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    To tell you the truth, I was sick to death of hearing about Ed Sheeran. There was 1 song on the radio I loved . It was by ..... Ed .xxxxxxx Sheeran. Bad Habits.



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  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Haters gonna hate



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    What's an Ed Sheeran? Never heard of one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,722 ✭✭✭StupidLikeAFox


    Tbf to Ed sheeran he can write a song. If the likes of westlife didn't have "the machine" behind them they would be nothing, but if Ed sheeran didn't have the machine behind him I think he would still have a following as a decent singer/songwriter.

    I'm not a fan but I can appreciate that he has some talent, unlike a lot of people off the pop conveyor belt. I think history will be kind to him as a pop great and seems a sound enough fella to boot



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,274 ✭✭✭✭ben.schlomo


    Try harder OP.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,495 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    Ed Sheeran was used as a joke character in a movie about the Beatles, his role was to serve as a humorous contrast to the real musical idols of the film. It worked because everybody accepted him in that role, he was indeed famous but not respected enough to ever seriously be compared to the Beatles, while a real superstar might actually have begged the question.

    Ed Sheeran, bit part actor, best known for supporting role in a rom com.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,023 ✭✭✭10000maniacs


    Steps to becoming a pop star. 2010's style.

    Take Van The Mans song, "Crazy Love", add your own lyrics and record it in a whiney whingey manner that impresses females.

    Get it to number 1.

    Borrow KT Tunstall's guitar loop technique. Go on tour.

    2010's pop package invented.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,326 ✭✭✭Scuid Mhór




  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    He does have that gg allin type appeal for sure, but he's no dolly parton.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Had Ed been around 20+ years ago, he wouldn't have gotten beyond playing gigs in pubs because the singer-songwritery types were ten-a-penny. Now, popular music seems to be veering in other directions, but the "niche" for singer-songwriter demand is still reasonably large - the supply is just a lot less. Ed got lucky - as can be said for most people who "make it".



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,680 ✭✭✭✭Flinty997


    Modern artists have easy access to a world audience that older artists didn't have.

    But you can compare sales numbers.

    In fairness Ed worked his ass off to get where he is. While I like some of his songs, its very samey.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,790 ✭✭✭Quantum Erasure


    I preferred his earlier stuff...



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 92,550 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    ..



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    No he's maybe in the top 100, he sells alot of cds, downloads, or streams, in 50 years time people will remember the beatles, ABBA, Taylor swift, Beyonce, Madonna, elvis presley, dolly Parton, Neil Young, Adele, joni Mitchell, enimem, sting, David Bowie, Tina Turner, guns and roses, Simon and garfunkle, Kate Bush. Elton John Etc etc he writes mostly love sings with clever lyrics and fairly basic tunes

    Just because you sell millions of cds or get millions of streams does not mean you are a great musician or a great songwriter quality is not always a sign of greatness

    No one else writes like joni Mitchell or Kate Bush theres not many songwriters that write songs that are interesting and reflect real life and their experiences and are more than basic love songs

    I think his songs are fairly basic and simple love songs and will be forgotten in 10 years i think he got lucky and his songs are fairly simple to understand with fairly basic melody's and singer songwriters have an advantage over 90 per cent of singers who hope they might get a chance to sing a hit sing

    Coming from the UK is an advantage if you want to get promoted by music company's and appear on tv shows etc

    There's always singers whose albums are reviewed in the guardian music column this a great album great original singer with amazing talent etc no one buys the album they are never heard from again



    every day there's 1000s of new songs released on soundcloud everyday it takes abit of luck to make a impact and become popular or even get the chance for the public to listen to your music

    Millions of people watch TV shows reality TV soap operas which are mediocre and meaningless in terms of artistic merit most of the singers on the xfactor were awful or else average there were maybe 5 good singers on it and it was on tv for years , one direction have some talent and singing ability

    Just because something is popular does not make it good or important many popular singers from the 60s and 70s are now forgotten I think he has a talent for writing good lyrics and making songs that are bland and appeal to young women and his voice is OK



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Maybe Eminem is better?



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,152 ✭✭✭Lewis_Benson




  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    There's always singers whose albums are reviewed in the guardian music column this a great album great original singer with amazing talent etc no one buys the album they are never heard from again

    Same when it comes to literary fiction.. excellent reviews in the 'serious' press.... "stunning work, perfectly captures the XXXX of the YYYY, and the cyclist's favourite compliment "This novel is a TOUR DE FORCE" etc etc and so on.. and the book goes on to sell maybe a couple thousand copies.

    Irish music reviews are even more preposterous.. there are 'stars' and 'legends' out there that have only sold a few thousand records. Last time I checked, you only needed to sell about 500 copies of a single in a week to chart here.

    So much PR and fluff to wade through when it comes to the arts in general... I just try ignore it all and find what I ilke regardless of the artist's reputation, sales etc.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,033 ✭✭✭✭bnt


    At one point I was convinced I had never heard any Ed Sheeran: it turned out that I had, but it went straight in one ear and out the other. He’s a busker, and I hate buskers. I think they are death to music. I’m trying to learn some guitar, but refuse to play in standard tuning, so I can’t do the “cowboy chords” and am less likely to do busker-ish things.

    Death has this much to be said for it:
    You don’t have to get out of bed for it.
    Wherever you happen to be
    They bring it to you—free.

    — Kingsley Amis



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,525 ✭✭✭magic_murph


    OP - If you are seriously asking this question you know nothing about music.

    being the most popular (played) doesn't make you the greatest.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    Greatest business man maybe , there’s not a lot in the music , if an older musician released the same music they’d be laughed at



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,460 ✭✭✭Tork


    Does he reverse into parking spaces?



  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mary 2021


    If you are asking this question then you know very little about music. Here's a sample of some you should listen to if you dare:

    Tom Waites

    Nick Cave

    Leonard Cohen

    Peter Gabriel

    thats just for starters.

    Sheeren was a busker on the streets of Galway he has not really evolved that much just has a good backing group of musicians, the listening public have become less discerning it seems.



  • Registered Users Posts: 471 ✭✭gizabeer


    No , not nearly , he's brutal



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,647 ✭✭✭✭Mr. CooL ICE


    No he's maybe in the top 100, he sells alot of cds, downloads, or streams, in 50 years time people will remember the beatles, ABBA, Taylor swift, Beyonce, Madonna, elvis presley, dolly Parton, Neil Young, Adele, joni Mitchell, enimem, sting, David Bowie, Tina Turner, guns and roses, Simon and garfunkle, Kate Bush. Elton John Etc etc he writes mostly love sings with clever lyrics and fairly basic tunes


    Exactly. He's pretty much a modern day Nik Kershaw



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,288 ✭✭✭thefallingman


    he's a jumped up busker, so no he's far from it.



  • Posts: 1,263 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    refusing to play in standard tuning?! harsh! this is subversive, cultural black ops musicianship! I suppose you smoke them jazz cigarettes too.



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 273 ✭✭2 fast




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    • Tom Waits - Middle class fake beatnik making money from romanticising poverty.
    • Nick Cave - Only major accomplishment was giving Kylie Minogue some street-cred with the Goths.
    • Leonard Cohen - didn't even sing the best version of his only good song.
    • Peter Gabriel - only major accomplishment was a plasticine video.

    Sheeran has an authenticity that blows all of these out of the water. He's just unfortunate that he embodies 3 things that Boards users hate: red hair, success and appearances on The Late Late Show.



  • Registered Users Posts: 272 ✭✭mary 2021


    thats your opinion and thankfully we can still have opinions on music at least. Also, to add i think a dog howling to an Adele song would sell out at the moment as people are so starved of entertainment and want to mix and chat and go places so selling out is no biggie people want something to do besides worry ! Tom Waites soldiers things is a beautiful song, i could name some lovely songs from those artists but no point. Have a good day.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams


    nik Kershaw is like dream theatre compared to Ed



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,186 ✭✭✭✭Ash.J.Williams




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  • Registered Users Posts: 900 ✭✭✭sameoldname


    Jesus, whenever I hear a song of his I always think to myself; "There's a guy who's desperately trying to convince people he has an emotional connection with what he's singing about." I only know one of his songs too (the one where he plagiarised Marvin Gaye), so it's only after the song is over and the radio DJ names the artist that I realise who it is half the time, yet I nearly always think that whoever it is, it comes off as remarkably inauthentic.


    As for his greatness as an artist, has he actually moved music forward in any way? Anything I've heard of his sounds like bland/generic 90's and early 2000's boy band style pop, but as I said, I know practically nothing of his music.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,942 ✭✭✭growleaves


    No I don't think so. I'll just discuss his lyrics in this post....

    His lyrics sounds like they were written by a committee.

    Take "Castle on the Hill". We never even find out what castle it is.

    "Fifteen years old and smoking hand-rolled cigarettes

    Running from the law through the backfields and

    Getting drunk with my friends

    Had my first kiss on a Friday night"

    "One friend left to sell clothes

    One works down by the coast

    One had two kids, but lives alone

    One's brother overdosed"

    These descriptions have a generic quality, they aren't particular enough.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,322 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Maybe keep thinking?

    He is ok...nice background music or something for an advert...but that's about it imo



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,443 ✭✭✭Riddle101


    I don't put a lot of merit on concert sales or music albums as you'll often find a lot of the modern trendy artists end up making way more than their talent deserves. The likes of Justin Beiber and Cardi B have made huge amounts of money for their music but I would never compare them to the likes of The Beatles, The Rolling Stones, or Queen who I believe to be far greater in terms of legacy and talent.

    Ed Sheeran is alright but calling him the greatest artist of all time is a bit of a stretch. How do you compare him to Elvis Presley or David Bowie or Michael Jackson? There's an awful lot of artists I would put ahead of Ed Sheeran.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Dude's got a tomato ketchup named after him:










    I don't think The Beatles have a single condiment to their name, despite Lennon saying "Cranberry Sauce" twice at the end of Strawberry Fields Forever. Neither Heinz, Chef or Chivers picked up on it at all. Nor indeed Keelings for the strawberries. God loves a trier, but that was embarrassing.

    In all fairness, Oasis got a soft drink named after them, but it's not very nice.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    I know nothing about Ed Sheeran and just one of his songs but I'm going to just go along with the mob and call him ****



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,816 ✭✭✭Relikk




  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Well sure yeah, but only if McDonald's is the greatest restaurant of all time.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,095 ✭✭✭Gregor Samsa


    Don't get me started on him. His stuff is rubbish.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,465 ✭✭✭silliussoddius


    Write your own Ed Sheeran song.




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