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If you've ever lived in England, you will know that Nick "roaring laughing" Foster is very typical of a certain type for whom it is an innate belief that Irish people are backward and credulous. He has more than likely found the whole idea of Bailey's guilt being widely accepted as so ridiculous that he has no problem adding to the absurdity. He does however have work to do and there is some method to his madness.

There is a preliminary investigation taking place at present and it is highly desirable from many people's point of view that everything to do with the original crime scene and investigation is beyond any redemption as far as bringing serious charges are concerned. This of course need never be communicated to the public, any report(for internal use and confidential) can state that there are reports of potential crime scene contamination, so consequently any evidence cannot be relied on blah, blah blah.

We will know soon enough when some Garda source advises some newspaper that it has been decided not to have a cold case review but that the case is still a live investigation. When Sophie's son was interviewed by Ryan Tubridy he didn't come across as someone in any way convinced of the verdict they concocted in France. If he had been he would have been passionate about the need to extradite his mother's killer but he hardly even mentioned this only making some pointless appeal to the Irish people for something or other.

I would suggest to people who make it their business to go on about Ian Bailey's supposed violent nature that what we know about him was confined to something between himself and his partner and she was quite open about the fact that she wasn't completely innocent in all of it and that she forgave him. The idea that he exerted coercive control is patently obviously stupid. When his accusers are clutching their pearls they might try to remind themselves that since Sophie's murder we have come to understand that there was always quite a bit of very serious violence going on behind closed doors in Ireland. We have heard about how many clerics, grown men, raped and abused young children, mostly boys and how many children died as a result of beatings they got while in their care. The horror is unimaginable to many people now. The institutions which these clerics were members of have done plenty to downplay their culpability and only grudgingly conceded that they should have to pay limited redress. It's one of those things with Irish institutions, don't expect to ever get the full story.

Some claim the viewpoint where the Bantry Garda and Alfie are involved in the murder are mad conspiracy theories. Yet at the same time lap up the tripe, Nick Foster is peddling where somehow he has the AGS and IB on the same sides. Lunacy.

Not to mention the talk of IB contaminating the crime scene. If they found even the slightest bit of IBs DNA at the scene he'd be behind bars right now. Some people have completely lost the run of themselves.

When and where did you live in England?

I have travelled back and over to England for the last 25yrs. My work takes me everywhere from Brixton to Scotland.. I have a good cross section of the natives mindset.

It may disappoint you, but Ireland is seen as a hub of superior education by the Brits (both north and south)

The backward paddy statement you refer to is simply not true. Can't tell me I'm wrong, because I know different.

I often wonder if the majority of Irish people really understand the British mentality with regards to Ireland??

When the conversation crops up (one I tend to steer away from if possible), most Brits couldn't give two hoots about Northern Ireland, nor do they want to keep funding it.. One contact in the north west of England, even refers to the Irish cleverly dumping the North onto the British tax payers... (All spoken in banter, but as you know, many a true thing said in jest)

You can be tiresome. "Jules might disagree"? She did. With people like you.

This is what she said in court in 2003. You can see her in the Jim Sheridan documentary making similar comments

"Ms Thomas, a Welsh-born artist, said there had been three incidents of violence with Mr Bailey. "The devil drink was the cause of it," she told Judge Patrick Moran. "It's like a temper flash," she said. "It's not something that goes on. It's always like it's two minutes and that's it."

She hit out at the way that domestic violence had been depicted. "I'm not sure why everything has to be blown out of proportion. There was a vast exaggeration of my eye," she said."

Now please don't do what others like to and suggest that the poor demented woman is inadvertently saying that he could in those moments of rage murder someone.

Two minutes is all it takes unfortunately. If you are going to quote from court cases perhaps you should consider Bailey`s diary entries that were read to the court where he admitted to having a desire to murder Jules as he assaulted her.

If you think your lip is attached to your gum you are an idiot.

He doesn't mention Ian Bailey by name but it's easy to see why some would assume it's Bailey he's talking about.

But I think he's hedging his bets now.

The way he sees it now is the Gardaí are not pretending, they don't actually know that Baily was at the scene because they did not see him.

What they do know is they allowed, or even invited a n other into the scene, who may have compromised it.

Foster has pored over a Guard's statement again and again until he convinced himself of this version of events.

That's the only way I can see it making any sense.

eh,this doesnt stand up ,he savagely beat his partner on 3 occasions(was it?) to the extent hospitalisation and stiches were required.To suggest these are the violent actions of a person who can control his temper is laughable ,also what study shows that people who inflict savage beatings on the partners are no more likely to murder than those that don't .I would have have thought the opposite was the case.

If he can't control his temper at all why does he only seem to lose it living with Jules? His ex wife reported no issues, where's his charge sheet for assault and GBH in pubs when drunk?

What study shows that domestic abuse is an indicator of being more likely to murder someone? It's your conjecture, therefore it's up to you to prove it. Even if is an association, given the number of convictions for domestic abuse relative to murder (of someone not in a domestic situation) where the accused has no other convictions for assault... it's such a weak association it is neither necessary nor sufficient for a case against Bailey.

I don't know if I go with the defence ,"I only beat those I am in a relationship with ,regularly."Also you first made the point there was no linkage between

domestic violence and murder,wheres your evidence for that.

Well, if he is so prone to go into violent rages... implying easily provoked... where is the evidence for this? He's drunk in pubs, seems to be an unpopular sort with the locals as an English blow in with 'notions' ... should have a list of incidents with police as long as your arm... but nope. It seems to be one particular person setting him off. His ex-wife reports no incidents. Of course, his conduct with Jules deservedly lead to conviction and is reprehensible. But what's the relevance?

I didn't first make that point, the thread is littered with comments trying to link the assault incidents with Jules as somehow being relevant to the Sophie murder. I'm challenging those peddling that narrative to back it up.