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Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Have they thus far?

    Well I suppose they have. Those models and exceptional concerns are undeniable



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,167 ✭✭✭pimpmyhat


    I'd recommend lemon, for its citrus content🍋🤣



  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Lol, Philip rocks up with the random number generator and announces the optimistic scenario is 10million cases a day and 50,000 in ICU. And that's the boosted population. 100% certainty of death for everyone with a "waned vaccine".

    Nobody questions him despite the figures being completely ludicrous and easily disprovable.


    "Recommendations" accepted without question.



  • Registered Users Posts: 12,812 ✭✭✭✭bear1


    No one questioned his idiotic prognoses during the summer and for some reason, we didn't all die. And yet here he is again with these numbers.

    And the thing is, he will just say "you see, numbers went down that's why my numbers didn't work and that's great. But i recommend more restrictions."



  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    400,000 cases was the December prediction. We are on track for about a third of that but recommendation for restrictions on hospitality and destruction of live events was still immediately implemented.


    It's beyond a joke. Being that wrong in the private sector would result in you being labelled incompetent. But instead he's given the power to determine who is and isn't allowed earn a living and what time we all have to be in bed by.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 28,839 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Micheal Martin on Newstalk now just now..

    As members of his own party have said, he's obsessed with reports and despite the growing evidence that it's (even) less dangerous, he wants more evidence from the UK and Europe on the effects of Omicron before he'll stick his neck out.

    He also thinks the 8pm closures is a fair compromise for people who want to socialise over Christmas. There's your present folks.. Don't overdo it though!

    When questioned about next year, he gives no assurances at all on how we might exit/move forward. Some waffle about antivirals and ongoing vaccination.

    Finally he's basically just confirmed that while FF and FG while contest the next election independently, he also plans to try and have his cake and eat by citing the government's "achievements" on particularly climate change (which if you're an ordinary commuting worker just means more taxes), suggesting to me anyway that they'll happily go back into coalition to keep SF out.

    In other words, more of the status quo ahead. Won't matter who you vote for.. They'll deal it out themselves anyway.



  • Registered Users Posts: 627 ✭✭✭DLink


    They deserve to get such an electoral kicking after what they've done to the country over covid, but the problem is the alternative is worse... SF wanted even tighter restrictions.

    We're truly screwed.... 🙄



  • Registered Users Posts: 20,720 ✭✭✭✭yourdeadwright


    What's the story with barbers, i want to tak my little lads whos 2, so obviously no cert or anything,

    I presume its ok to go ahead as normal but in thos country nothing would surprise me



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,839 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I'm no fan of SF at all and I think they'd be disastrous for FDI and any middle earner in this country as they'd try to further expand the welfare state - but it's hard to know what they would do as they have no real positions (except on NI/UI which let's face it, most people here don't really care about beyond romanticism).

    They are entirely populist and will say whatever they think will get them more votes which at the moment is to just be against anything the Government says, whether it's right or wrong.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    no cert needed, less than half wearing a mask in my barbers yesterday. Was getting my beard done so he wasn’t going to cut around the mask!



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  • Registered Users Posts: 24,347 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I had to turn him off fairly quickly..

    And the soft hands from Shane Coleman... He's obv angling for an advisor's gig. All far too cosy between the Irish media and Irish politicians.



  • Registered Users Posts: 187 ✭✭ShadowTech


    I was about to post the same thing. If public opinion strongly turns against restrictions I expect they’ll become completely anti-restriction. As a party they seem to strongly support whatever they believe is popular at this moment in time.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,839 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    The little "Irish language" bit between them at the end was just cringeworthy. We know Coleman loves the topic but it was just so transparently sycophantic

    99% of the listeners probably hadn't a notion about the few sentences they exchanged, and even less care. I'm sure they were far more interested in the plans post-Christmas which of course we didn't get but we all know what'll happen when Tony and co get more "concerned"



  • Registered Users Posts: 26,977 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Was a bit of a love fest that interview, heard the end but had to tune out, was feeling somewhat queasy with an urge to vomit profusely.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 26,977 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Another Pandemic prick incoming on Newstalk, Pete Lunn, god this guy drives me mad with his utter nonsense, not helped by an accent that reminds me of the wicked witch from the wizard of Oz 😬🙄

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 241 ✭✭MarkHenderson


    Michael Martin came across very well on Newstalk this morning. The nation is rowing in behind the booster programme and the very light restrictions. Well done to him. 👍



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,252 ✭✭✭Archeron


    For a man who was supposed to be removing himself from the media limelight and running communications past the government press office, I have seen more pictures of Tony holohan in the last two days than I've seen of my entire family through my whole life.

    Show me grave concern Tony, lovely, lovely. Now show us stark warning face, beautiful.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,769 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Did you ever let us know how your neighbour knew they had the new variant?

    Maybe I missed i, just curious as I didn't think they gave out that information?



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,769 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    Was happy to hear this morning how my aunties and uncles will be going to my parents house on Christmas day for drinks like they have done for as long as I remember besides last year.

    Two of them are vulnerable and are very pro restrictions well as far as I am aware they have been since this started.

    It's great to see, people have done what was asked and got the jab and who knows for how many people this is their last Christmas.

    Asses your own risk people and spend time with family if you want to.

    Don't let a cautious and permanently concerned dictator tell you how to spend Christmas.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,663 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Shush. That doesn't "suit the narrative".

    We need to keep up the outrage.



  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    The outrage is against the new restrictions we introduced in the face of an improving situation. There's no outrage at falling hospital numbers.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    We need to know how many of those 443 patients currently in hospital are there because of severe COVID-19 illness, or because they happened to present to the hospital with another condition and coincidentally found to carry the virus.

    This data matters, particularly with respect to the arguments in favour of severe restrictions, and yet it's nowhere to be found.



  • Registered Users Posts: 28,839 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    This...

    Also the age profile and medical history of these people matters hugely too



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Anecdotal second-hand stuff about pubs in Dublin, yesterday was better business than a full Monday and phones hopping with people looking to book this week. City centre absolute madness it seems.



  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    It's Monday of Christmas week, a lot of people are finished work. Plus I'd say extra are attracted in on the assumption we will close pubs again from January to August under an "abundance of caution" so this could be their last chance.


    Good for them. Everybody should enjoy every drop of the scraps we are allowed.



  • Registered Users Posts: 636 ✭✭✭Absolute Zero




  • Registered Users Posts: 10,996 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    To which I'd add age profiles and 'ethnic' status. On the former, and even though I'm getting on in years, there's far too much medicalisation of old age now - people that previously have died from various bugs and infections quite naturally, now kept alive with drugs and interventions. Not always best for the quality of life either.

    And as regards 'ethnic' status, how many hospitalised are from groups like our traveller friends who despite giving two fingers to lockdown guidelines last year, apparently decline to be vaccinated. I'll be f***ed if we are carrying the can for them in particular.



  • Registered Users Posts: 10,996 ✭✭✭✭Furze99


    Top of the agenda, the only item really on the agenda for SF is a United Ireland. By whatever means required and to hell with the cost. Every other policy of theirs is subservient to this holy grail. Be very afraid.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 4,177 ✭✭✭Fandymo


    What justification is there for shutting hospitality early??



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