Recommend electric folding scooter for end of commute (Mod Note Post #1)

quarryman · 12-12-2018 8:43pm

Done almost 200km on mine now.

Love it.

unkel · 12-12-2018 11:28pm

Ha another familiar user formerly from the motors forum

Well wear!

dilallio · 13-12-2018 12:15am

I've 360km done on mine. Love it, but it really struggles on hills with my weight (93kg).
Also there is no gasket provided on the joint where it folds/unfolds. Over time, you will get unwanted movement developing.
I've gone through 2 Garda Roads Policing checkpoints - got waved through the first one and the guard on the second checkpoint asked me where I got it as his brother was looking for one.

Thargor · 13-12-2018 5:22pm

What sort of range are ye getting on a charge?

mike_2009 · 14-12-2018 12:25pm

I've a Zoom Stryder ES which is advertised 25-30km range at 19kph. I did a 25km trip at 25kph recently and got to 20km, hit turtle mode, then 2km more real slow before it died. So real range at full tilt is about 20km on a cold day. I charged it up and got about the same on the return. Wanted to find out what the real range was, could've gone slower of course, might have made it...!

Lumina · 17-12-2018 12:17pm

Reckon the €359 price for m365 will go down further after Xmas? I've not been tracking the prices for long.

https://www.amazon.it/gp/offer-listing/B077QHRLPB/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=new

quarryman · 17-12-2018 10:27pm

Lumina wrote: »

Reckon the €359 price for m365 will go down further after Xmas? I've not been tracking the prices for long.

https://www.amazon.it/gp/offer-listing/B077QHRLPB/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=new

That’s a great price.

dilallio · 18-12-2018 5:28am

Thargor wrote: »

What sort of range are ye getting on a charge?

I do about 5.5km a day and when I get home, it shows about 75% full.
I charge it daily, as I noticed that once the battery gets near 50%, it really struggles on hills. Again, I'm over 90kg which is a big factor here.

quarryman · 19-12-2018 8:02am

mike_2009 wrote: »

I've a Zoom Stryder ES which is advertised 25-30km range at 19kph. I did a 25km trip at 25kph recently and got to 20km, hit turtle mode, then 2km more real slow before it died. So real range at full tilt is about 20km on a cold day. I charged it up and got about the same on the return. Wanted to find out what the real range was, could've gone slower of course, might have made it...!

I have the same scooter. 20km is probably a realistic distance alright. Below 50% battery and the speed drops to about 25kph which is a bit annoying.

mike_2009 · 19-12-2018 11:09am

I wasn't cheeky enough to unclock it to above 25km/hour yet so not noticed!! It's great for local shopping, just back from Woodies...!

drunkmonkey · 19-12-2018 12:06pm

Do you have the carrier hook for shopping?

mike_2009 · 19-12-2018 4:07pm

They gave me a carrying handle for free, I guess you could hook that on but it might be a bit wide? Was just planning on dropping in into the shopping trolley, it folds up quite small handles and all!

El Inho · 03-01-2019 5:18pm

Del2005 wrote: »

There is no gray area they are a mechanically propelled vehicle and would require a licence, tax and insurance if they could be made road legal.

I agree with half of this. It's not a grey area but only because it's clearcut in favour of the scooter rider. Like someone else said, a Garda might misinterpret the law the same way, but I have it on authority from the Garda press office that the scooter requires human power to get it moving, it's not an MPV

https://goosed.ie/electric-scooters-and-the-law-in-ireland/

beauf · 03-01-2019 7:25pm

El Inho wrote: »

I agree with half of this. It's not a grey area but only because it's clearcut in favour of the scooter rider. Like someone else said, a Garda might misinterpret the law the same way, but I have it on authority from the Garda press office that the scooter requires human power to get it moving, it's not an MPV

https://goosed.ie/electric-scooters-and-the-law-in-ireland/

If it's not a grey area you'll have no problem finding the quoting legislation that defines it like that. Instead of some vague poorly researched social media. Good luck.

Martynet · 03-01-2019 8:54pm

Hey guys, I created a group on FB related to Electric Scooters in Ireland. You're all welcome to join in and share stuff... It's called Electric Scooter Ireland. Cheers
When I receive my scooter (Dualtron Spider), I'll be sharing all the information and experience there. Could be cool to get as many members as possible and do some stuff to raise public awareness and discussions with politicians. Let me know what you think. cheers
The group is called Electric Scooter Ireland

Shefwedfan · 09-01-2019 8:17pm

New scooter out

https://www.geekbuying.com/item/KUGOO-S1-Folding-Electric-Scooter-350W-Motor-8-5-Inch-Tire-Black-411071.html

Johnboy1951 · 09-01-2019 8:18pm

I wondered about the legality of use of these devices and how it could be put to good use by the gov in their bid to reduce traffic and our carbon footprint.

If each car owner was made legally entitled to use one without extra payment etc it might well encourage commuters in the direction the gov wants.
Yes, sure there would be paperwork etc etc., but the net result would be allowing their use in place of cars.

All others without a car registered to them would be required to make payment to register and legalise.

Something along those lines could both make the best use of these devices while at the same time making them legal to use, and hopefully taking an equal number of commuter cars off the road.

I have not thought this through, but something along those lines could be beneficial to all I think.

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Martynet · 09-01-2019 8:52pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I wondered about the legality of use of these devices and how it could be put to good use by the gov in their bid to reduce traffic and our carbon footprint.

If each car owner was made legally entitled to use one without extra payment etc it might well encourage commuters in the direction the gov wants.
Yes, sure there would be paperwork etc etc., but the net result would be allowing their use in place of cars.

All others without a car registered to them would be required to make payment to register and legalise.

Something along those lines could both make the best use of these devices while at the same time making them legal to use, and hopefully taking an equal number of commuter cars off the road.

I have not thought this through, but something along those lines could be beneficial to all I think.

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We need more scooters and more happy users... We need scooters to become as normal as bikes. I'm spreading the word as much as I can. And as soon as I get one, I will let other people to try it and convert them too

Shefwedfan · 09-01-2019 9:01pm

Martynet wrote: »

We need more scooters and more happy users... We need scooters to become as normal as bikes. I'm spreading the word as much as I can. And as soon as I get one, I will let other people to try it and convert them too

If you never had one how do you know you will recommend it?

hmmm · 09-01-2019 9:01pm

How likely are you to take a fall off of one of these? I've been reading some reviews saying that scooters are lethal in the wet, which isn't much use in Ireland?

Shefwedfan · 09-01-2019 9:05pm

hmmm wrote: »

How likely are you to take a fall off of one of these? I've been reading some reviews saying that scooters are lethal in the wet, which isn't much use in Ireland?

I go faster on my push bike, so same risk as a push bike on wet roads......

they are a bit odd at the start but unless you are messing around or doing something stupid I can't see how you would fall. Of course depends on the surface you are driving on. Cobble lock in Dublin city centre in wet, you will be on your arse in no time....

beauf · 10-01-2019 1:23am

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I go faster on my push bike, so same risk as a push bike on wet roads..........

I think you have to consider are you more stable on a bike with large wheels or something like a folding bike. Then look at the physics of a rider on scooter.

ED E · 10-01-2019 1:28am

hmmm wrote: »

How likely are you to take a fall off of one of these? I've been reading some reviews saying that scooters are lethal in the wet, which isn't much use in Ireland?

Try them on one of the smoother manholes. Down and out.

punisher5112 · 10-01-2019 8:10am

Watch out for tar lines, man hole covers and shores...,.. oh and pot holes.

I've reported George's at to Camden at areas and it's in a seriously dangerous way but nothing gets done, I've reported numerous times over the last 2 years or more.

Johnboy1951 · 10-01-2019 10:34am

punisher5112 wrote: »

Watch out for tar lines, man hole covers and shores...,.. oh and pot holes.

I've reported George's at to Camden at areas and it's in a seriously dangerous way but nothing gets done, I've reported numerous times over the last 2 years or more.

Maybe you need to edit this to make some sense

El Inho · 10-01-2019 12:04pm

Just had my first wet run on my M365 without any noteworthy incidents - other than getting bate in the face with light rain isn't enjoyable

Same for bikes I'd imagine.

In terms of coming off one. Hand signals are a challenge so I'm looking into a turn signal helmet. For example, right turns require you to take your hand off the handbar and throttle - making it harder to keep going and keep steady. It's manageable, but takes some getting used to.

Bumps are very noticeable because you don't have suspension - but again, in daylight it's easy to spot these comign and at night time (while harder) the light is very good.

Here's more of what I thought - I'll be giving it a more indepth review in the next week or two.

https://goosed.ie/xiaomi-m365-review-first-impressions/

drunkmonkey · 10-01-2019 1:28pm

You never signal a manavoure!! Just ask a BMW owner.

There's some pads to take some bite out of the bumps I think. There on eBay/Amazon.

I've been to rough enough areas on it and it's fine just don't try and mount a kerb or similar.

Johnboy1951 · 10-01-2019 3:23pm

El Inho wrote: »

Just had my first wet run on my M365 without any noteworthy incidents - other than getting bate in the face with light rain isn't enjoyable Same for bikes I'd imagine.

In terms of coming off one. Hand signals are a challenge so I'm looking into a turn signal helmet. For example, right turns require you to take your hand off the handbar and throttle - making it harder to keep going and keep steady. It's manageable, but takes some getting used to.

Bumps are very noticeable because you don't have suspension - but again, in daylight it's easy to spot these comign and at night time (while harder) the light is very good.

Here's more of what I thought - I'll be giving it a more indepth review in the next week or two.

https://goosed.ie/xiaomi-m365-review-first-impressions/

I would think a high-viz jacket, with indicators built in would be the best option of the lot (indicators on shoulders) should such exist.
If they don't exist there is a free idea for some enterprising scooter user

Shefwedfan · 10-01-2019 3:30pm

Johnboy1951 wrote: »

I would think a high-viz jacket, with indicators built in would be the best option of the lot (indicators on shoulders) should such exist.
If they don't exist there is a free idea for some enterprising scooter user

Facebook has an advertisement for something like that.....

I would prefer it on the each cheek of your arse....so right cheek for right, left cheek for left and straight ahead is :P:P:P:P:P

Johnboy1951 · 10-01-2019 4:12pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Facebook has an advertisement for something like that.....

I would prefer it on the each cheek of your arse....so right cheek for right, left cheek for left and straight ahead is :P:P:P:P:P

....... into the pot-Hole ...

Martynet · 11-01-2019 10:57am

You can buy indicators for the handle bars... https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B079P8M52S/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE&psc=1

Martynet · 11-01-2019 10:59am

El Inho wrote: »

Just had my first wet run on my M365 without any noteworthy incidents - other than getting bate in the face with light rain isn't enjoyable Same for bikes I'd imagine.

In terms of coming off one. Hand signals are a challenge so I'm looking into a turn signal helmet. For example, right turns require you to take your hand off the handbar and throttle - making it harder to keep going and keep steady. It's manageable, but takes some getting used to.

Bumps are very noticeable because you don't have suspension - but again, in daylight it's easy to spot these comign and at night time (while harder) the light is very good.

Here's more of what I thought - I'll be giving it a more indepth review in the next week or two.

https://goosed.ie/xiaomi-m365-review-first-impressions/

You can buy scooter with slightly bigger wheels and suspension. You can also buy helmet with visor, so no rain go to your face...

mike_2009 · 11-01-2019 4:48pm

I came off mine for the first time last weekend - mounted a kerb at the driveway but was going a bit too fast and at a bad angle....scooter went one way, I ended up on my feet at a fast run pace....got lucky! Will be more careful about changes in street/path levels in future, take them slower!

Lumina · 12-01-2019 5:20pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

New scooter out

https://www.geekbuying.com/item/KUGOO-S1-Folding-Electric-Scooter-350W-Motor-8-5-Inch-Tire-Black-411071.html

I'm thinking of getting this. Better price than Xiaomi and has suspension. Great display. Little reviews so far but seems a reputable manufacturer.

Shefwedfan · 12-01-2019 10:12pm

Lumina wrote: »

I'm thinking of getting this. Better price than Xiaomi and has suspension. Great display. Little reviews so far but seems a reputable manufacturer.

I was seriously thinking about it, asked them for a discount code

CFC007 · 13-01-2019 12:36am

I took a punt on this scooter, €290 delivered and no risk of taxes was too good to pass on. Will report back when it arrives.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I was seriously thinking about it, asked them for a discount code

drunkmonkey · 13-01-2019 7:56am

The Irish xiaomi with spare wheels and collect and return warrant is probably worth the extra money.

cojomo2 · 13-01-2019 8:50am

drunkmonkey wrote: »

The Irish xiaomi with spare wheels and collect and return warrant is probably worth the extra money.

Hi, do you have any details of this wartanty and what it includes? Im thinking of purchasing one of these scooters and if the Xiaomi from 3 store comes with a decent warranty (especially for the battery) and readily available replacement parts, I'll happily pay they extra few quid.

Also, I haven't read the whole thread but is the view still mixed as to the legality of these (even though they require a push start)?

Thanks.

drunkmonkey · 13-01-2019 10:17am

I need to double check I think it's 12mt warranty but could be 2yrs the same as their phones. If it's faulty it's collect and return, they'll pick it up and drop it back to you that's probably worth the premium alone, there was 2 spare tyres in the box and something else I'd have to go find it to check.

Legality, by the letter or the law they need tax and insurance but I've passed a good few Garda and only got smiles. Chatting to a chap the other night he had his confiscated but he told them he was on the way home from the pub but they said he could collect it in the morning.
It's all down to who you meet.

beauf · 13-01-2019 12:40pm

I was told by one place the batteries only have a 6 month warranty. The rest of the scooter was a year. Not sure where they got that from.

I would expect a bit of regular maintenance like a bicycle.

drunkmonkey · 13-01-2019 12:59pm

It says that on the Chinese instructions, it also says your warranty is out if you feed it liquor.
Didn't look at what it said in the box no where near it today to check.

peaceboi · 13-01-2019 1:57pm

Where is the Irish Xiaomi store? What price for the scooter there?

Shefwedfan · 13-01-2019 2:22pm

CFC007 wrote: »

I took a punt on this scooter, €290 delivered and no risk of taxes was too good to pass on. Will report back when it arrives.

I might pull trigger as well

cojomo2 · 13-01-2019 2:47pm

peaceboi wrote: »

Where is the Irish Xiaomi store? What price for the scooter there?

Apparently they are available in Ireland exclusively from 3.

Shefwedfan · 13-01-2019 2:55pm

Is the Xiaomi stuff online with three yet?

drunkmonkey · 13-01-2019 5:08pm

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Is the Xiaomi stuff online with three yet?

You buy it in the shop and they deliver it to you.

peaceboi · 13-01-2019 5:51pm

drunkmonkey wrote: »

You buy it in the shop and they deliver it to you.

You mean 3 mobile stores across Ireland?

beauf · 13-01-2019 6:57pm

Yes. Some bike shops also sell them.

www.cyclebike.ie

I like the idea of being able to go back to bike shop for repairs.

CFC007 · 19-01-2019 10:34am

Cancelled the one on geek in the end as got a used Xiaomi one. Did a 16km one way commute yesterday. Made it home with 19% battery and that’s with a cfw on it.

CFC007 wrote: »

I took a punt on this scooter, €290 delivered and no risk of taxes was too good to pass on. Will report back when it arrives.

antodeco · 19-01-2019 10:35am

beauf wrote: »

Yes. Some bike shops also sell them.

www.cyclebike.ie

I like the idea of being able to go back to bike shop for repairs.

Interesting. I wonder would it be covered under the bike to work scheme?

Recommend electric folding scooter for end of commute (Mod Note Post #1)

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