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Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

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  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    9200 positive swabs on 37,700 tests.

    Two record-breaking numbers there.

    The HSE reckon we could hit 20,000 at the peak, which means we're only a week away from peaking really, at most.

    FYI; The daily case numbers over Xmas are just going to be the positive swabs. The HSE won't have the data validation capacity during the break and want to avoid the same stuff last year where a huge backlog built up.



  • Moderators, Entertainment Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators Posts: 14,420 Mod ✭✭✭✭marno21


    ICU down to 98

    4 admissions, 5 discharges.



  • Registered Users Posts: 725 ✭✭✭M_Murphy57



    Why did they lead with the ludicrous worst case figures? What is the probability of the worst case happening? 1 in 100, 1 in 10000, 1 in 10?

    Why does nobody ask that fool nolan what the most likely expected figures are and use that as the headline?


    Economists don't tell us that "worst case inflation could be ten billion percent" they give us a forecast of what they *actually* reasonably believe inflation will be.


    It's only with covid where public health advisors are allowed make ludicrous unchallenged forecasts and media prints them like they are plausible outcomes.



  • Registered Users Posts: 18,485 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    How many more weeks?

    The last thing this country needs is another mobile goalpost.



  • Registered Users Posts: 803 ✭✭✭Relax brah


    Its positive news as more of population are will be protected by serious illness - why would that make you so angry?



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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Ouch that's a lot of positive swabs

    over 24% positive

    Bit of a spoiler on otherwise decent news about hospitals and icu

    also mildness of omicron



  • Registered Users Posts: 245 ✭✭Perseverance The Second


    The peak is more likely to occur in mid to late January if we are being honest.

    The effects of Christmas gatherings, the sheer amount of travel associated with Christmas (particularly from the diaspora) and New Years celebrations will see infections jump for at least a couple of weeks after the 1st of Jan.



  • Registered Users Posts: 6,039 ✭✭✭KrustyUCC


    Taoiseach Micheál Martin has said that almost half (49.9%) of the adult population here have now received a booster or third dose of a Covid-19 vaccine.

    In a tweet, Mr Martin said that means 37.4% of the total population of the country has now had a booster jab.

    That's great going considering we were late to get the boosters going



  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    Yeah perhaps. Omicron builds much faster though. Any Xmas socialising we'd expect to cause a peak very early in January. It doesn't take weeks to build up waves like previous variants did.

    It peaks high but it also peaks quickly.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,332 ✭✭✭ginoginelli


    feckin hell.

    The thing is rampant. I wonder what the true number is? its conceivable if we doubled our testing numbers we would equally double our cases.

    The fact that hospitalization are staying lower is really encouraging. Early days still though.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,615 ✭✭✭MerlinSouthDub


    Exactly. 10000 positive swabs today could be as many as 20000 cases, because we will be missing lots of cases with testing under pressure. At that level of infection, it's pretty inevitable it will burn out quickly. I'm afraid it's not going to be pretty, hospitals will be under severe pressure even if Omicron is a bit milder. But it will be short lived.



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Hopefully there will be an EU wide opening oplan so Leo doesnt have to leave the country to go to a gig.

    That will the only way for the shackles on our freedoms to be removed as its quite clear now that Martin will never go against NPHETs modelling no matter how fanciful it is.

    Even if there is no one in hospital who has been admitted with covid in mid January I can see NPHET attempting to keep restrictions.

    At this point if the Irish public tolerate restrictions for a day longer than they have to then we can forget ever having a proper winters socialising again.

    We have to be extremely careful that we do not allow medical bureaucrats to medicalise life permanently, to use scary modelling to ensure that no meaningful reform of the health service takes place,we cant allow them to restrict access to hospital beds in case the system is over run, this is not sustainable going forward so a hospital system thats fit for pupose needs to be set up.

    There is no reason why we cant look to Germany, everyone pays a percentage of their income towards funding the health service,people have faith in the health service, believe that its there to serve them and they will be seen in turn.

    Covid has shown how submissive Irish people are, how accepting of being told you have to wait two years for a scan and years for elective surgery.

    We remained in lockdown all last summer for no reason except bureaucrats wanted to protect a deplorable health service, we are going to have this situation until April if people dont get out and protest, I mean there isnt one word of positivity from any of them, we were supposed to get a break from these people and now its Holohan, Glynn, Henry and Reid taking to the airwaves to terrify people tring to relax for christmas, you even have Holohan organising a photo opp with children,absolutely cringingly embarrassing.

    How difficult would it be to say it looks like this variant isnt very scary at all, we may not even need boosters now because its quite clear the variant itself has changed things and made this a mild illness so going forward we will remove the stupid daft restrictions like closing pubs at 8 and cinemas and theatres as well.

    But no, end of January is written in stone and seeing as you all tolerated this situation in the height of the summer we know you wont even bleat now so you get what you deserve.



  • Registered Users Posts: 1,708 ✭✭✭firemansam4


    It’s hard to see any new variants coming along that will be significantly more transmissible than Omicron, after this peak I really think we will start seeing the end game of this thing.

    But then again if we have learned anything over the last 2 years, it is how unpredictable this virus has been, so I guess nothing can be taken for granted for a good while yet.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Ultimately you'll have to ask the news editors why they chose to lead with that. I can't speak for them.

    But presumably it was because it came from the head of the HSE as opposed to some guy in the pub.

    That, rather, than the actual claim itself is probably what gave it news worthiness.



  • Registered Users Posts: 812 ✭✭✭Hey boy


    Discuss away. Just be prepared for a contrary point of view.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,566 ✭✭✭bennyl10


    did you miss the highest ever swab numbers part?


    January is a long way away in terms of covid



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,643 ✭✭✭Doctor Jimbob


    Yeah, credit where it’s due. The ramping up of the booster rollout in the last week or so has been impressive.



  • Registered Users Posts: 4,095 ✭✭✭Rosita


    Exactly. 987 cases on 22nd December 2020. 7800+ on 6th Jan 2021. Absolutely phenomenal growth. The 6th January 2022 could be very different to today.



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,858 ✭✭✭Backstreet Moyes


    9000 cases we will be shut down before new years, even if hospital numbers stay stable.



  • Registered Users Posts: 5,849 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    SA looks to have reached a peak, no signs of a peak yet in the UK or Denmark though.

    So SA looks to be the outlier.



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  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Well, they are a good few weeks ahead of everyone else in terms of the surge, so may see that in others over the next week or two.



  • Registered Users Posts: 7,433 ✭✭✭Jinglejangle69


    9,000 cases.


    Is contact tracing even bothered still going, what's the point?


    Remember when we had 5 cases and opened back up and there was an outbreak in a meat plant and we all thought contact tracing had it under control😀


    18 months later and 9,000 cases!!!


    No controlling this thing through lockdowns etc



  • Registered Users Posts: 372 ✭✭Jimi H


    Are you asking me? Haven’t a cobblers. Just trying to take some positives out of a s* t situation. I’ll be taking a break from Covid news over the break. In other good news, Coldplay have announced they’ll stop making music in 2025. Some good things are worth waiting for.



  • Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    I believe this is where the antigen tests are supposed to kick in. 50,000 have been set out by HSE in the last week to close contacts.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Way more cases I would think as many cant get tested . No appointments free at all in Dublin these last few days



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    No, vast majority are under thirty four, elderly tripped jabbed hopefully minding themselves, its personal responsibility now.

    Time to call a halt now, millions being spent on tests to catch a fraction of cases, time to bring gravy train to a hslt.



  • Registered Users Posts: 24,395 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    go away out of that... you'd love nothing better than an old "I told you so"



  • Registered Users Posts: 8,952 ✭✭✭duffman13


    It could however hospitalisations as a % of cases are way way down on last year. We have been recording 5000ish cases a day for a month, with those numbers last year we could have had 1200 or so in hospital by now.


    The number of discharges taking place daily is significant too, the profile of either the virus or the effectiveness of high levels of antibodies in society is seeing much shorter hospital stays than previously.


    9000 isnt good, of course its not however its not a scenario that appears to be crippling either. The obsession with case numbers in isolation has actually gotten worse as case numbers have increased yet hospitalisations, ICU and Morbidity has remained consistent or reduced.



  • Registered Users Posts: 16,138 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    And if antigen is positive how do we inform anyone ? No where online to inform the HSE and no one answering the helpline



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