Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

Nah, the state taking half of my income is plenty, thanks. You already know this is an issue with efficiency and not funding anyway.

I don’t believe that the prerequisite to having a free society is having X number of icu beds. And I don’t think that “look what other people are doing” is a way of determining right from wrong - I don’t think you do either.

And just a reminder, we’re talking about 300 people out of 5,000,000 in a month :)

There has been a cohort since this started to always point the finger at somebody.

Italian Rugby fans, People at Cheltenham, pubs, people queing for fish and chips, joggers, meat factory workers, Bulgarian fruit pickers, Berlin Bar, takeaway pint drinkers, non essential retail, people not wearing masks properly, public transport capacity, traveller funerals, Brazilians, unvaccinated, unboostered people, wrong type of masks, it goes on and on and on.

They have all been proven to be complete and utter Bollox. And the nastiness of the humans pointing the fingers exposed.

Yep and not forgetting blaming the under 12's and soon will be using the coercion on the parents to get them vaccinated when there is no need for them to vaccinated.

What is Tony Hoolohan on about so?

I mean yeah if I see a crazily crowded shop I'll turn around and maybe go back later, I've been doing that long before COVID though

I trust vaccines (and now another tangent from you) but I also understand that the unvaccinated are much more likely to be hospitalised and that they are also unlikely to get a vaccine now if they haven't already but that if we had just let the restrictions disappear and let it rip that many needless deaths would have occurred (or could still occur).

Omicron will hopefully change that.

If you are unvaccinated you are much more likely to go to hospital if infected and use a bed denying someone else access to that bed solely because you chose to be unvaccinated.

Trusting the vaccine doesn't mean being stupid about the reality of the virus as the loons seem to imply it does, the answers aren't binary.

The data coming from Omicron also doesn't look like there will be any let up in the COVID pass system, it appears that the vaccinated hospitalisation % drops a lot vs. delta but unvaccinated still remain vulnerable. If it does work out that way (and the data is preliminary so it may not) expect the COVID pass to stick around for a while longer. But, by all means, get angry at the virus and the data for doing this, just stop pretending to be protecting the loonies while promoting needless deaths, it is utterly transparent.

And this is partly why Ireland has been so bad with restrictions and with public support for them. I had 15 family members in the uk get covid near the start of all this, before vaccinations. It was a mild cold for all of them, even for the over 70s. There have always been very good odds of being fine, the risk was massively overstated from the start.

Project Fear.

Project Fear was a Brexiteer tactic to try and make Brexit seem wonderful by owning the unknown, unsure how it's relevant here.

does it look like st patricks day will be cancelled again this year? parades etc? Im going to Cheltenham anyway on the wednesday but just wondering

I was thinking that the other day.

Spot the country that built the biggest empire on the planet vs the country that handed their independence to the Catholic Church the first chance they got.

We're a country that likes being told what to do.

It's so sad to hear people talking about how such and such a person "has it". It's a virus that on the individual level is harmless and that was even before the multiple vaccinations and boosters. We are not in lockdown because it's some terrible disease we are in lockdown because our systems aren't set up to deal with a virus this contagious but that doesn't mean it requires a post mortem evertrime someone gets a positive test, why people are even testing boggles my mind.

The joggers was the worst. How dare somebody run by me!

i think people just mean their a better set up of a nation overall, to be honest i think the republic of ireland is a failed state. we lurch from crisis to crisis and still rely on emigration as a safety valve every 20 years. i would definitley not rule out being back under British rule within 100 years again. This will actually be sped up if we get a United Ireland IRONICALLY

The valley of the squinting windows or the other saying curtain twitchers. We have turned into a nation of these.