The wondrous adventures of Sinn Fein (part 3) Mod Notes and Threadbanned List in OP

It is funny you as a SF supporter view SF as progressive - yet they are a EU skeptic party, had the chance to change the British Brexit process -but they refused to block when they could have by going to westminster.

You refer to a 'civil war coalition' - implying it is backward etc. Yet there has never been a coalition involving FF and FG in the history of the state - until now.

I think you need to step back and ask yourself who is backward here. If you look at SF's policy's they claim to want housing in the ROI but vote as a bloc against it time and time again in the ROI.

From a finance point of view SF's answer is always simply tax the rich. Basically a 1930's FF manifesto.

There is never the thought of developing the economy encouraging investment and development - by those in business who are the ones who create the jobs. There never is talk of encouraging foreign direct investment which has served the ROI superbly. SF have a simplistic narrow world view. One which is they come power they will have to compromise on. Because all of these SF promises are just not practicable and they will likely cripple the country. SF will likely have to go into coalition and have to compromise. But historically SF are shown to be very slow to compromise.

It is an old world view SF have, with a veneer of progression (marriage referendum - abortion) to trick new voters who do not look beyond their thin false veneer when it comes to the broader issues affecting the economy/health etc.

I think you are only codding yourself in the name of a republican ideology.

I did read your post that's why I asked the question. So are you saying SF should not enter government in 2025 and wait until 2030?

A long time to be on here posting about everything that's wrong and how SF will fix it it especially when there are 10 less similar like "posters" here after current events.

Are you trying to suggest SF are less populist than FF, for example?

Hilarious.

Sinn Féin are fiscal hawks, are they? 😂

More deflection I never said SF would "fix everything" I asked how would SF would form a government if they got 50-55 seats without FF or FG.

Do you think they should avoid trying this after winning then 2025 election to allow FF and FG form a party and wait until 2030?

I am not inventing a strawman. It is you who used the term 'civil war coalition'. I find people who use the term strawman on boards.ie are stuck for a counter argument

How is it rotten it has provided stable government for a century. Not a bullet was fired since the civil war. SF on the other cost thousands of lives damaging the reputation of Ireland around the world. The provos bringing shame to the people of the ROI and the tricolour. SF shot at their own people in the name of a cause. Refuse to even recognise the ROI for decades and decades. Not recognising the courts etc. Shooting at Gardai, killing gardai - robbing banks in the ROI. With no mandate

Yet you are implying a century of stable governance is somehow evil. It is how successful economies are run. Which going by the past listed above with SF is in come contrast. I know which is preferable - a stable decent society or a warped moral compass based on an outdated ideology?

But it seems many SF hardliners do not have a moral compass. It is all part of the glorious 'struggle'. When there is feck all glorious about it. But many SF supporters love that pantomime.

If SF really wanted to help Ireland North and South they would have called a special Ardfheis or All Island SF meeting and at least debated attending WM to change history on Brexit. But they did not have the balls to even try. You claim it was a mandate issue but they did not even ask their electorate the question.

It was also telling in the last GE that Labour FF and FG said they would not go into coalition with SF. Those votes combined meant SF was outnumbered.

SF had no real mandate despite the SF spin. None of the main parties in the ROI wanted to play with SF and they were given the mandate - when it was made clear that none would go into coalition with SF pre the election. The people of Ireland gave their decision they did not want SF in government.