US Maniac cops at it again, this time in LA.

But she was shouting “Tazer” even before she shot him. If you believe she went down the “accidental shooting” route to cover up a moment of mania, how come she was shouting that even before shooting him?

I see the victim was a Chilean immigrant. Parents said the police refused to assist the dying girl but I think the cops in America don't try CPR themselves. I think if it is true that American cops don't actually use their guns that much in their whole career than maybe they be bad shots or reckless when they do

I feel like the shooting was totally justified given the circumstances but I do believe this situation highlights major training issues with the police in question.

Firstly, all that panic when they're trying to get organized before they walk in together to meet the offender is a vital waste of time and just plain embarrassing for any "professional". Secondly, the LEO who shot the offender and killed the little girl had absolutely no consideration for the background behind their target. That's poor training on a very basic level for anybody holding a firearm. Thirdly, why are you using an assault rifle in a supermarket with paper walls against an unarmed man? (Albeit a bike lock is not armed in the American sense and yes I understand they got 911 calls saying he's armed but they got to the scene and still used an AR after confirming no firearm)

It's tragic for everybody really but this is just the result of shoddy training and bad nerves.

When your holding an assault rifle and pointing it at someone with the intention of using it, you better be damn sure you have your facts right.

A police officers job is to access a situation and make a well informed choice based on what he can see in front of him. Regardless of what reports are coming in, his decision can be a matter of life or death. Your argument is baseless, simply because the facts are undeniable and the decision the police man made was wrong. There was no firearm, you do not shoot a person unless you know categorically they are armed.

A trigger happy police officer made the wrong call and an innocent died because of it. Saying a police officer made the wrong call is not police bashing. Had the perp been armed it would have been the right call, but he wasn't armed with a gun.

She's a wagon of the highest order. The Irish version of Diane Abbott.

All other police forces ? really ?

Police Killings by Country 2021 (worldpopulationreview.com)

It's also not that hard to realise that the ability to pick a decision apart with the benefit of video and time is exactly the opposite of what the officer who took the shot had.

He had to assess a situation in a split second, something which is a lot more difficult to do than you would expect, and come up with the correct response based on the facts as presented to him at the time.

In law the word reasonable is used a lot, and it's also misused by some. In court, whether the action is reasonable or not is decided based on the facts and with an instruction to the jury that they must judge whether the action was reasonable going by the information the officer had to hand at the time of the incident.

There was a great video on YouTube a while back where a civil rights activist was invited by a police department to go through a role play scenario where he was making the decision on whether to shoot or not, gave him a whole new perspective.

https://youtu.be/yfi3Ndh3n-g

It most certainly does happen in other countries, also if you look at my first post on this thread you'll see it doesn't happen all that often in the US either. Anyway the reason that it appears to happen more often in the US is that we consume an awful lot of US media, both traditional and social.

As to why the cop gets to decide if someone dies, well if i was a cop in a country where guns are so prevalent and the decision is to put someone in a box or wind up in one myself then personally the choice is pretty damn easy.

Those goal posts have been very expertly and neatly moved, bravo. I've already said that their training needs to be addressed, but the numbers on police killings in the US don't lie. The chance of being killed by a police officer during an encounter with them in the US is 0.0018459016393443%. This number greatly decreases for the general population to 0.00033972015163309405%.

The premise of this thread is that US police are maniacs who go around shooting and killing people for no reason, those numbers do not reflect that position. The accidental shooting of a young girl in LA is indeed tragic, but wasn't due to the actions of a blood thirsty cop, which is the picture being portrayed by some in this thread. em

Also your point on cops being less inclined to interfere and jump in were they are not wanted, well that's kind of their job. Generally speaking police don't just show up and interfere with law abiding citizens. Chances are if the police are there then either someone called them, or they were passing and saw something illegal happening they are duty bound to "interfere" in these situations.

I love people saying that the cops in 'Merica need to step back and work more with the community, when there appears to be more and more reports of ambush killings of cops. When that kinda stuff is happening, as a cop you're gonna be on guard the whole time. The public need to cooperate and understand this too, but instead they're just defunding them. It's all gonna come crashing down soon, and the army/national reserve is gonna start being used a lot more. If I was a cop in 'Merica, I'd be working my way towards any other job! Just my 2 cents.

If a cop genuinely suspects somebody is reaching for a gun, I would absolutely expect the cop to respond in kind. The ERU/ARU/armed Gardai here would probably do the same. What do you expect them to do...........wait until they are shot to confirm if the other person had a gun or not? We have the benefit of hindsight, but people in that position sometimes only have fractions of a second to respond.

I would really hate to be a cop in the US. They face being shot any time they are on duty (and off duty). It's a poxy job and the money isn't all that great either. And you have armchair warriors here calling them cowards or others thinking that you can shoot a gun out of someone's hand or maybe that they should take a few belts of a bicycle lock or risk being stabbed when trying to disarm someone because 'they are cops'. Sh1t job but somebody has got to do it.