Covid 19 Part XXXV-956,720 ROI (5,952 deaths) 452,946 NI (3,002 deaths) (08/01) Read OP

I'm sure tippman also heard the classic "hide under your bed" line aswell.

"Low could mean anything"? So you are saying that both '50' and '16,000' per day are both low. How does that work?

Wife had it last month then had symptoms the other day again which confirmed her 2nd lash of covid in a month -never heard the like of it

trying to figure this out 2 scenarios maybe theres more who the hell knows

scenario 1 -still showing positive from last month

scenario 2 -had delta now omicron

Subjective maybe, but not the impossible judgement call you appear to be suggesting. The problem with your idea of having a specific number is that you might come out of restrictions on a Tuesday when you hit the number, but have to go back into restrictions the following day if the number goes up slightly above the target. Silly vista obviously but strictly speaking it's the silly spectrum you jump on by deciding in advance what's 'low'.

Can you imagine the obsession with the number on here?

Is she vaccinated?

yip

If anybody wants to get an insight into the world Holohan and other health experts inhabit read this article

BBC Blogs - Adam Curtis - THE VEGETABLES OF TRUTH

Whereas the utopia of equality contains a wealth of substantial and positive goals of social change, the utopia of the risk society remains peculiarly negative and defensive. Basically, one is no longer concerned with attaining something ‘good’, but rather with preventing the worst.

And again, the symbiosis between declining beliefs in anything beyond the physical world we inhabit and an ageing of the population who are now in power.

I think the truth probably is that it was the baby boomers losing their youth - and finding themselves unable to face the fact of their own mortality - they started to project their fears onto the rest of society. But somehow people like Beck transformed this into a grand pessimistic ideology.

We are scared shitless of death and the hospital numbers is just a new excuse/reason to hide behind. 18 months ago it was the 'deadly' disease and then when it turned out that it was well below 1% and the most infirm who were at most risk from Covid, the soundings changed to managing our hospital capacity.

Contrast the reaction of those first respondents to the Chernoybl disaster with the cowards who are consigning their future generations to indebtedness and potentially a whole host of other negative social effects as they twitch vigorously behind their curtain

''I want to put up part of an extraordinary documentary made during the events of 1986 that dramatically shows just how different our attitudes to risk used to be. It is the record of the group of Soviet technologists who volunteered to go into the ruined reactor core at Chernobyl after the disaster.

It is extraordinary because they all knew they would die. Their protection against the radiation - as you see in the film - was minimal. It consisted of taping up their cuffs and trouser legs and not much else. But they went in because it was the only way to find out how to contain the disaster.

It is so moving because they are men from an older world. To them risk is irrelevant. They believe in something grander - bigger than their own lives. There is also the most fantastic remote controlled camera - it is mounted on a toy tank and its images are great.''

Hospitals at 619 this morning, a jump of 51 on yesterday and up over 240 since Christmas Day. That's also the first time over 600 since 24 November.

This is the sort of level headed thinking we need. If we simply ignore it and pretend it’s not there it will eventually go away.

We need to know more on the nature of these hospitalizations. Are they people who tested positive after admission or are there from COVID illness initially. We know the variant is rampant

Yeah, this is going to bite the HSE in the arse now if they can't distinguish Covid admissions from incidental positives.

And by that I mean "people who were admitted because of Covid-like symptoms and tested positive". That's all that matters now. I'm aware that every positive requires isolation, but that's not the statistic that's important.

If other countries are showing low hospitalisation rates and we start posting high hospitalisation numbers just because we can't tell how many infections are hospital-acquired then that's just a complete clownshow.

Unfortunately, I was forced into having dinner with the in laws last night....

All of them in nice comfortable public sector jobs.....All of them with this phony fake type of "worry" when huge case numbers are released just in time for the 6 one bulletin......"oh god sure isnt it awful....terrible numbers......can you pass me the turkey there please"

All of them looking for a lockdown...not a fùck do they care about anyone outside of their own bubble....

im developing ulcers from holding my tongue....

A final thought, when anyone hears of someone getting covid now...no one is actually worried about that persons health, we ALL know theyll be grand....we all just keep carrying on in this type of charade.....

Well yes we do need to know as we need to know the severity of the illness.