Covid vaccines - thread banned users in First Post

The source does matter...and who exactly is John Titus what is his background etc?

Why are you taking that bizarre documentary plandemic 2..seriously? And at face value? The people appearing in it have been discredited multiple times e.g. Mikovits...it is trash

Quote where I said this please.

I clarify what I mean in the post.

I also do not believe you. Far too many of you new accounts randomly drop in in the middle of this thread claiming to have a personal experience that you will not do anything to provide evidence for.

So you and other conspiracy theorists are claiming the vaccines don't work.

That's cool. Please explain your theory more.

Why do you believe governments doctors and medical organisations are trying to get people to be vaccinated?

Do you subscribe to the depopulation theory or the microchip theory?

If you don't subscribe to either, I'm curious why you chose to take issue with my post and not any of the dozens of posts from conspiracy theorists which contain blatant lies.

What’s the conspiracy and how are vaccines unsafe? You keep avoiding the question.

I know this is an old post, you could also say that Cnn is US propaganda, the only difference between the two is that one is sponsored by Pfizer. Can you guess which one it is?

Note how you never question these conspiracy "documentaries" or the conspiracy social media you endlessly post in here or any other conspiracy theorists on this forum

You are wary of science, journalism, fact-checking. But unquestioningly swallow this conspiracy stuff.

It's been explained countless times before, that's the first thing these people do, get you to doubt facts/reality. Whether it's a flat-earther or a "plandemic" type, they want to replace the facts with whatever fiction they are selling. You are the audience, happily clicking on all this stuff, evangelising it in this forum, regurgitating their disinfo and lies. Ironically, like sheep.

You see, I do recollect. I know that you are not telling the truth about what I wrote. I'm giving you the chance to actually back up what you're claiming, but you won't, because as always with conspiracy theorists, you're lying.

You have also not actually answered my question and have just gone on a bizarre rant full of the usual anti vaxxer lines.

Please try again using your own original thoughts, not just what you're parroting.

“Why do you believe governments, doctors and medical organisation are trying to get people to be vaccinated?”

Again, the reason you're dodging this question is the same as why you're lying. You can't actually answer it honestly.

You can't provide a rational answer because you don't have one, or you know that your answer will be ridiculous and put most people off your ideas and attempts to appear reasonable.

Right. Im sure you can provide evidence to back up your claims.

Question dodged.

Typical.

I don't know when the European Commission will do something like that. However, as with all conspiracy claims, I suspect that you aren't telling the whole truth here and you aren't accurately representing the facts. (though more likely the propaganda you swallow doesn't and you're just repeating what you're told like a good little bot.)

So why do you believe the European Commission has not given the vaccines these yet?

Are they not part of the giant global conspiracy?

Ok. What are the dangers then?

Why were the vaccines approved for use without being declared safe by the EC?

Why do you believe that the EC are the only ones you trust?

Why do you believe that all of the studies that show the vaccines are safe and vaccine are false?

Why aren't you able to provide a single straight answer to any question?

To me, it looks like this is because your position isn't very good as you're just repeating crap you read on twitter.

Very little from the medical world is advertised on the radio or tv, so you have no point there at all, not anything to back up what you say.

Well for two of those answers, you're lying.

There are side effects listed on the internet. There's been no secret about this and there's been no attempt to hide it. These side effects come from the studies already conducted and they occur no more frequently than occur with other medicines.

Secondly, you are lying when you claim that the vaccines haven't been studied for side effects or safety. They have.

So since you are now answering direct questions, please tell us:

Specifically and without dramatic attempts to sound like you have super secret super special knowledge, who do you believe these "puppetmasters" are and what is their goal in forcing people to take a dangerous vaccine?

Also you are very funny and original. No one has ever attempted to try and make a pun with my name. Good work.

That's nice. That's your inference from "attitudes" but it's not what my argument was.

Why do you think the poster did not highlight or mention the parts of the study I had to highlight?

Why have you not commented on any of the lies and misinformation being told by conspiracy theorists?

Yet another conspiracy theorist going down the route of childish name calling. It must be averaging one per day at the moment, although maybe they are the same person.

What I think is happening here is that it's some form of red tape that's taking longer to get through than others. In the grand scheme of things it probably doesn't matter and governments aren't too worried about ticking that particular box given that the vaccines have been deemed safe to use and don't really need "advertising".

Anti-vaxx grifters jumped on it though and use it as proof that the vaccines are dangerous. And since they know their target audience isn't going to look into it, find out what the SPCs are, or think too hard about the contradictions, they have a nice new factoid to tweet about.

Or course, the moment that the issue is resolved and the vaccines get these SPCs, then anti-vaxxers like Phishnet here is still claim it's part of the conspiracy.