Rose Of Tralee now accepting trans applicants (Threadbanned List in OP)

The reality is very simple. Trans people exist. They always have done. You can't explain why and you prefer that they didn't, so you will use whatever you can to belittle and reduce them to suit your own world view. Fine, as others point out, it's an opinion site. But you cannot get away from that simple fact.

we agree so, we all have our opinions and just because somebody differs to yours, doesnt make them a bad person.

I'm sorry you misread the sarcasm as anger. Either you are mistaken or you are trying to diminish my post by making me sound 'emotional'. It's a cheap trick often employed on boards, apologies in advance if you were genuinely mistaken.

I find the concept of single sex schools strange, but that's nothing to do with gender etc I simply didn't go to school in Ireland where it's normal to segregate.

But regarding the school, yes I think if there were more support for trans rights we wouldn't have this problem. I know they said they would help someone transitioning, but that's a bit of a mess too. Imagine being the only boy in an all girls school? **** show and something heads and school boards shouldn't have to make decisions on.

I said its my opinion, why do you think they are looking for guidance?

Yes i did take it as mild anger. Apology accepted. Its all a shitshow for the time being. Both sides need to be listened to.

The guidance they’re looking for in order to protect themselves from being sued already exists.

Nothing actually protects them from being sued in any case, it would simply be a question of whether the case has any merit in law or not, and that could only be considered on the facts of each individual case. That’s what lawyers are for, is giving legal advice to organisations who want to protect themselves in accordance with what the law does and doesn’t permit them to do.

If an organisation is looking to find ways around the law, and that’s what they’re seeking guidance on, then that kind of guidance isn’t likely to come from Government.

What exactly in your opinion is this article about? What do the schools want? I would read it as they don't want to allow biological males attend an all girls school because over time the idea of their single sex school would be gone.

Yep, I interpreted their intent the same way you did tbh, that they want to retain their status as single-sex schools, and admitting boys would be a threat to their continuing status as single-sex schools which only accept applications from the parents of girls.

You made the point that you didn’t attend school in Ireland so I don’t know how familiar you are with the education system here, but the issue also crops up in terms of religious schools who want to maintain their religious identities, whether it be Catholic, Protestant, etc, and many of them are indeed single-sex schools. They too argue the point that they should be permitted to discriminate against people on the basis of sex or religion on the basis of their fears that admitting children who do not conform to their standards threatens the ethos of their schools.

The argument that they should be permitted in law to discriminate against people based upon the fact that those people don’t believe they should be discriminated against, just isn’t a particularly compelling one in a pluralist democratic society. It’s precisely for this reason that exemptions do exist in Equality legislation, in order to distinguish between lawful and unlawful discrimination.

Pretending they don’t know the difference and arguing that need guidance on the matter is the GDST attempting to frame themselves as the victim in the same way as the Bishops of Ireland try to do in spite of the fact that they are by far and away in the majority, as opposed to being in the minority that Equality legislation is intended to provide protection from unlawful discrimination for.

As you suggested yourself - imagine being a boy in an all girls school, it’s really not that difficult to imagine the sort of discrimination they would be subjected to were it not for the fact that the school would be prevented by law from doing so. If the school actually wanted to protect themselves from being sued, then the onus is on them to protect their students, rather than looking for legal advice from Government as to how they might lawfully practice discrimination.

Ah sorry i never made that point, i was schooled here. Didn't make the point about the boy in school either. Anyway we interpreted it the same so.

The point was made in reference to wondering why we don't see more trans people here.

Only the out and out transphobic posts get removed but there is enough derision to make sure no sane trans person is likely to engage.

I don't know who is blindly accepting anything.

I know that's the thing that gets me most that somehow this is some woke fashion statement lol

That putting yourself through emotional turmoil, a great financial disadvantage, having to explain yourself at every turn, significantly reducing your options to find a meaningful relationship and much more is all done on a whim.. yeah of course it is..