Relaxation of Restrictions, Part XII *Read OP For Mod Warnings*

can anyone see full houses for any ireland rugby games in feb or march? surely they wont row restrictions back that quickly. i presume big concerts will be limited in april too such as ed sheeran? hes in cork and dublin in late april , but again hard to see more than 10000 allowed into these

he is incorrect, as gove's claim is actually correct (and that is from someone who can't stand the chap) the virus doesn't discriminate on who it effects, and it doesn't discriminate as to how minimal or hard it will effect somebody.

some people will be at more and others at less risk from it but less risk is not no risk and there are no guarantees.

when covid kicked off in itally understandably people were nervous given what was being witnessed, and quite rightly public health measures were taken straight away to thankfully avoid a similar situation happening in other countries, and it would have had but for public health measures.

no politician was going to say it only effects a minority of the populatiion because it would be untrue, because even among those of us at less risk of it, there were no guarantees against serious effects and politicians had an obligation to be truthful about the situation and as well as that, it isn't as serious as it could have been again due to the already mentioned public health measures.

nphet haven't conned, terrorised or brainwashed anyone, it is the loons spreading misinformation and conspiracy theories and denialist mumbojumbo who have attempted to do so, and while they succeeded with a minority and that is worrying, they ultimately failed with the majority.

you lost, get over it, the majority don't and never will buy what you are selling.

Too many boomers and too many people living into old age set the tone for the pandemic. It was a horrible cocktail of mass panic in the age of Whats App and Social Media and the number of elderly who use these platforms. Anecdotal stories became widely spread, overweight 30 year old's dying became reasons why we should all fear this 'deadly virus', testimonies from hypochondriacs and those unfortunate enough to get a bad reaction to the virus spread as fast as the virus itself.

History will remember the reaction to the pandemic, not the virus. That will be how this virus differs from those in the past.

Maybe I'm just a hopeless optimist, but I can. We're being told this will be a short, but sharp, wave of infections. Going by SA data, it should be over by end of January. But the unknown is the effect on the hospitals. If they come out of this wave relatively unscathed (again judging by latest data, numbers are increasing but not in the same manner as previous waves), I think we will remove restrictions a lot quicker than before. Even Leo has been "kite flying" in relation to this. Keep the faith.

You lost mate, The Government is no longer going to lock down the country to keep your oily hide safe. Restrictions are a waste of time against this variant, even the few we have are useless

Latest CSO figures

0-44 age group:

66 deaths from 427,764 cases = 0.01% death rate

45-64 age group

473 deaths from 137,083 cases = 0.3% death rate

65-79 age group

1,710 deaths from 40,596 cases = 4.2% death rate

80+ age group

3,267 deaths from 16,853 cases = 19.4% death rate

And that's without looking at underlying conditions, existing illnesses and obesity.

Looks like the virus discriminates very heavily in fact.

Stop spreading misinformation. The only one who has "lost" here is you.

Covid absolutely does discriminate, and very heavily so, mostly by age but also by health status. You are many thousands of times more likely to die from Covid as a 96-year-old with hypertension, diabetes and asthma than you are as a healthy eight-year-old.

"No risk" doesn't exist. People die of complications from the common cold every year.

When Covid kicked off in Italy, news media dragged their cameras through an ICU for some tragedy porn. It was disgusting, and anyone who has had the professional need or personal misfortune to spend time in an ICU knows that they are miserable places to be on any day of the week. They are usually, even through the pandemic, more full with people who have suffered strokes, heart attacks and other incredibly common and deadly ailments. But the cameras are never dragged through for those so I guess they don't exist.

It should be noted that at the time that the cameras were dragged through the ICU in Lombardy, the doctors there were killing people with early intubation protocols imported from authoritarian, genocidal communist hell hole, China.

Michael Gove lied, just as you are lying right now with purpose and malice, and people are finally seeing through it on a mass scale.

The media in Ireland has pumped out fear. It's why they switched to reporting cases when deaths and hospitalisations fell drastically.

The Great Barrington Declaration has not in any way been debunked, and any dribbling idiot who thinks it has will see it positively re-bunked as the collateral damage of lockdowns makes itself known over coming years.

I would doubt that very much.

The highest estimated flu fatalities for the USA in over 40 years for a single year is 80,000. The average Covid yearly fatalities to date are 484,000. Over 6 times greater.

Going to be some disaster for the Entertainment industry if we have a repeat of 2021 with things allowed go ahead but at limited capacity.

Don't be surprised if were once again seeing full stadiums and Arenas all over Europe/UK with us still limited

it is not being done because it doesn't work, you know this, this has already been explained to you and others multiple times.

you can only protect the vulnerable and the systems of the country by minimizing virus spread.

the vulnerable doing whatever while the rest of us run around the place spreading the virus equals high virus in the community meaning greater risk to those shielding from those assisting them.

it also means a hell of a lot more out of work at a time meaning knock on effects to services.

even with this strain a lot more are out of work isolating because we need to keep the show on the road some bit and having those staff in work means more staff get it meaning less work gets done if some staff end up taking time out because it is a bit severe on them then they expected.

the strategy we took was the only workable one and it has kept the necessary stuff operating and that i am afraid is the priority throughout this.

Hahaha! This thread has some golden moments. The IRFU are collaborators is a classic of the genre.

And that's it in a nutshell and the main reason why the government wouldn't open up fully in the summer. Sure even in the summer I remember someone from the HSE on the radio saying A&E was busy but not with covid but with people out enjoying the outdoors and asked people to be careful.😀 Until the government get the finger out and tackle the healthservice and make it fit for purpose they will be slow to lift restrictions. Even going forward I can see government introducing restrictions in winter once the healthservice get overwhelmed.

it is you who is actually in a sense spreading a form of misinformation as you are posting a response that is not actually responding to the post i actually wrote as you are deliberately misinterpreting what was written.