Minimum Alcohol pricing to be signed into Law

So does anyone think we'll see off licenses and other alcohol retailers increase craft beer prices along with the cheap stuff that has to be be increased due to mup. I've a lot of friends that laugh at me when I say vast majority of craft beer pricing is nowhere near mup so won't be increased.

I've being toying with the idea of doing some homebrewing for a few years now so if craft beer does starting increasing in price unnecessarily then I might finally take the plunge

I could be wrong but I think craft brewers don't have much choice what price their beer sells for beyond what the distributor pays them wholesale. That's why I say in my post above that I suspect it will be the retailers like off licenses and supermarkets chancing their arm by increasing prices across the board. If that did happen I would imagine craft brewers wouldn't be happy about it because they won't see any extra profit and as you say would probably drive sales down. Of course a lot of craft brewers sell direct and have close relationships with primarily online retailers like craftcentral, beercloud, yardsandcrafts etc

What kind of a set up would you recommend for extract brewing? Isnt that the style that needs to be boiled but then cooled rapidly so requires a fairly hefty set up cost?

Its basically a few buckets, one with an element to make essentially a big kettle, a thermometer, wort chiller, siphon, probably forgetting a few items there but all in all around €100 I’d say would do it.

Then it’s buying the likes of your sanitiser, ingredients like hops, malts etc each brew you do.

As I said above you’ll break even within a few brews.

Definitely a bit of an outlay though which puts some people off and then there’s the process which can scare people too but once you’ve done it once and you keep everything clean and sanatised it really isn’t that hard.

Can’t understand how pricey craft beers are, fair enough there can be a bit of differential but €3+ for a 330m

can is not a good move.

Looks like the idea is to promote the four can or bottle pack for the same price as the 6 pack used to be.

A four pack of Karpackie .5c 4.8% used to be €5.50.

Saw four packs of Karpackie .44c 4.8 % in Dunnes for €7.00

the hops can be more expensive than all the other ingredients combined and craft beers tend to use a lot of them. Mass market lager uses very little and may just use “hop extract”. Craft beer is made in small batches, if more labour intensive and they also don’t have the buying power of big brewers.

I wonder if the Aldi/Lidl cheap booze brands will be taken off the market now that they're 50% more expensive, or will they "upgrade" the quality as well. I don't think I'll buy Western Gold for €23.

Cos it would show us all up as the boozers we are. 🙄

O'Hara's Christmas pack has a 440ml glass in it, I think.

I'm normally a disaster for buying beer branded glassware but we're about to start a full house renovation and I don't want to add even more stuff to have to pack/store.

We are evolving into a nanny state. The majority are being punished for the ills of the minority. It's a nonsense. It's also going to hit those who are on the lower incomes. It's sod all to do with health. People who can will go north and stock up.

Its only the cost of beer

Its only the cost of food

Its only another few % of tax on your income

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