ESRI confirms Irish welfare dependent population is TWICE that of Germany or France

Because people working as carers (as an example) really deserve support

“Jobless households contribute substantially to Ireland’s distinctively high level of income inequality.”

Maybe getting a job would help reduce this? Just an idea.

"My point is not to sweat it too much, despite the apparent unfairness because that money does not vanish, it goes right back into the economy, and since shopkeepers and other businesses will pay taxes on profits, welfare also generates taxes down the line."

This is utter nonsense. Let's have less people working and more on welfare - everyone wins! Apart from those crippled by excessive income taxes of course.......

Make welfare less attractive, those people get jobs (employers are saying consistently they can't get staff). We have the same outcome you present and we can

1. lower taxes so people who actually work, pay for everything etc are rewarded more (and can spend more); or
2. the government can use the money productively elsewhere

lucey is a free market libertarian, so its always important to bare that in mind when reading his comments.....

I'm well aware of who Cormac Lucey is

Maybe we'd all be better off if we critiqued the argument and not the individual

If you think buying online is a problem in terms of money circulating in the economy, wait till you hear what the middle and upper classes have been doing for decades here.

Meep I could understand this line, however by taking away incentives to work we are potentially ruined/disenfranchising generations.

It's a throw money at people and hope they go away approach. We are TWICE Germany and France yet have no plan it seems to change, just throw more money at it (500m a year)

You wrote; "There's the same problem with welfare applicants who buy online, whereby only the VAT amount and custom duties, make any returns into the Irish economy. "

Why single out welfare recipients who buy online? Why don't you call out everyone who shops online, as upper/middle classes have been doing for decades for their lack of return to the Irish economy?

I don't understand it

Less people on welfare but in jobs achieves the exact same thing in terms of money being spent, velocity of circulation etc.

Strangely people who advocate this line for welfare recipients (btw I'm not saying you are!) don't advocate tax cuts to achieve a similar outcome

"giving citizens the money directly, pup etc, has shown us, that it benefits society far better than using this money to inflate asset markets such as property markets..."

What kind of rubbish is this?

Take this:

"again, many jobs are actual 'bullsh1t jobs, offering little or no benefit to society, and making many unhappy, unhappy humans arent actually very productive in their jobs, and are also more likely to engage in dysfunctional behavior, that can in fact be very costly to all...."

But paying people excessive welfare benefits to contribute zero is a benefit to society? Does make people happy? And do you think none of those people engage in dysfunctional behavior, that can in fact be very costly to all?

2019 AFS of 31 LA

Manintenance/improvement of LA housing units = 276m

Rents paid to LA = 569m

There's no middle class anymore it's only rich or poor people in this country that's probably why most people are on social welfare because its rip off ireland too

Yes absolutely I agree completely with you 💯