Snowpiercer [TNT/Netflix] (**Spoilers**)

Connelly and Bean make this show some special

I know this is a spoiler thread but I’ve only just finished season 2 so please so spoilers.

How many tracks are there? I had thought that there was only one but if Snowpiercer is going to pursue and try take back the cars then that means they can get ahead of Big Alice and as we see in this episode they were able to turn around and go the opposite direction without encountering Big Alice - so there must be at least one other track.

A great cliffhanger. Wilford is obviously going to make people suffer, some lives left hanging in the balance and a big story altering event in splitting the train.

A very surprising and original move to kill off the lead character “off screen”. Makes it seem like more of a loss because we don’t see it. However I suspect that Connelly has not left the show - writers would have made a bigger deal of characters grieving her.

I have been thinking since posting and I know why I had “one track” in my head.

Prior to the movie coming out I mistakenly believed that Snowpiercer was super-sized train - not just long but I also thought it much wider than a normal train. Obviously this wasn’t the case in the movie or isn’t in the series but for some reason “one track” is stuck in my head - plus the characters often talk about areas they pass through repeatly - which adds to they idea of “one track”.

what you say makes sense. That Wilford joined up the existing tracks.

Did Ben & Javi spend the entire 7 years (from departure to Tailie uprising in Season 1 isolated in the engine?

Did anyone know they were in there or did everyone think it was just Wilford?

I’m assuming they did as they and Melanie were the only ones qualified for a lot of work on the train part from the engine but I don’t remember them ever being away from the engine in Season 1.

I think genuinely believes that Ruth is the better leader. And the better person.

And I can see his point, Layton pressured Pike into murdering for him (it was murder because Terence didn’t stand a chance). Layton also stole the engine that lead to a death and suffering for a lot of good people.

Ruth may have been a part of that plan and been left behind by mistake but she stepped up asa a leader and kept a lot of people alive.

Ruth may have been on the wrong side and done bad things in the previous 7 years but she is redeeming herself.

If it was just about Layton he would face him. I think it about putting Ruth in power.

Layton, to be perfectly honest, is a bit of a prick at times. He was in charge 5 minutes a and was living in a first class carriage while others are still in the tail.

I cannot for the life of me figure out why he wants to be with Zara. Even taking Josie (the better woman) out of the equation, Zara is an asshole. :p

I’m curious about the reason for sticking him in front of the TV with old cartoons. We don’t see anyone guarding Wilford but it doesn’t mean there isn’t. He can’t do much anyway at the moment. I couldn’t quite make out the meaning of the look on his face though - is he out of it or scheming already?

No I think a Pike vs. Layton situation has been coming since he made Pike kill Terence.

It was dick of a thing to do - should have just killed the guy himself. Or removed him from the position.

What I don’t understand is why anyone who knows New Eden is a lie is going along with Layton? It is completely made up (as far as they know - viewers can assume the visions actually mean something).